Diesel in DEF tank

tonakis · Mar 27, 2014

The number 1 post of the thread! Thanks! Both sides represented, objective thinking, love it.

Everybody would agree here - you can't teach common sense.

TexTrucker said: ↑

There have been valid points made on both sides. I started out with JB, and if werner is anything like them, they micromanaged you to death. Some of the qualcomm messages, I just laughed and thought.. That's really something you felt you had to send a message for? So 883 has some good points.

The one thing I agreed strongly with Dino was, respect is earned, not demanded...

As for me supporting tonakas, it's been in the fact that it does no good to tell him multiple times how he messed up. If he hasn't gotten it by now, I'd be willing to bet that, if they keep him on, there will be paperwork and a formal butt chewing in the future.

It's been brought up a few times, what if it was your truck. Much would depend on, like 883 pointed out, what kind of hand he'd been for me. If I decided to keep him because he had been a good employee, I would probably have him sign a financial agreement to repay a portion, probably half, of the repair bill, taken out of his check each pay period. I believe this would really instill a sense of responsibility in the driver to take care of his equipment, plus let him know he's not alone in it.

Let's face it. Many people are not wired right to be truck drivers. It doesn't require a college education or being able to speak 5 languages. What it does require is a sense of responsibility, and a A LOT of common sense. Many book smart people don't have the common sense God gave an ashtray. And sadly, common sense isn't something that's teachable imo. You either see the big nozzle and the little hole and think, well this is going to be a pain in the butt. Or.. That's not right, there must be a different pump somewhere.
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tonakis · Mar 27, 2014

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tonakis · Mar 27, 2014

This is the bill. The more mechanically inclined feel free to discuss it. We might all just learn something.

WitchingHour · Mar 27, 2014

Probably cheaper to replace the DEF tank than to bill out the labor it would've taken to clean the old one out and ensure that absolutely no residue from the diesel was left over. Nothing out of the ordinary, although I am a little amused about the 20 cents for a single cable tie. But I've only worked at company shops, where items like those are considered expendables.

tonakis · Mar 27, 2014

That's what i thought, but why would they do it if they can suck up some more cashews this way. "Stealership" someone said earlier.

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Probably cheaper to replace the DEF tank than to bill out the labor it would've taken to clean the old one out and ensure that absolutely no residue from the diesel was left over. Nothing out of the ordinary, although I am a little amused about the 20 cents for a single cable tie. But I've only worked at company shops, where items like those are considered expendables.
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WitchingHour · Mar 27, 2014

Well, a third party shop servicing third party vehicles and a company shop servicing company equipment are going to have their variances. Plus I was talking about the small cable ties we keep handy... if we have to go to KW, Volvo, etc. to get the large ones used by the manufacturers for wiring harnesses, air lines, etc., we end up billing those out to the truck, as well.

tonakis · Mar 27, 2014

I am surpised it generated such interest, over 9k views. But I mean, the reason is we dissected everything there is from start to finish today. We managed to keep it civilized and many people got something out of it. Thanks to everybody that contributed, by the way.

unloader said: ↑

And the story continues... I haven't been this interested in a thread since that girl who worked for Navajo got kicked off a truck in the Northwest.

After two weeks I'd be looking at the transport section in the San Antonio Craigslist lol... Especially if I broke some equipment. Get a new job lined up before I needed a reference!

unloader
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pattyj · Mar 27, 2014

Glad its finally done.You've sat too long in that flea bag motel.

tonakis · Mar 27, 2014

There is one more thing left to be seen. We all know what it is.

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Glad its finally done.You've sat too long in that flea bag motel.
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Florida Playboy · Mar 27, 2014

tonakis said: ↑

There is one more thing left to be seen. We all know what it is.
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If they didn't tell you to proceed to the nearest terminal by now you should be okay. I'm sure they know you won't make the same mistake again. It's cheaper to keep you on than get rid of you and have to train a new student to take your place.

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