Differences Between Layover and Detention

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by madmoneymike5, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. Bazerk Wizz Bang!

    Bazerk Wizz Bang! Medium Load Member

    American trucker. thinking that we both make about same amount of money overall, but becouse I dont pay taxes on a certain percentage of what I make I take in more than you, I also am going to be in lower tax bracket at end of year so will end up with bigger refund than you. I am aslo thinking that even though we seem to make about the same amount of money, i do about half as much work as you do. I will give you credit, and a lot of it, if you are driving a freightliner century. drove one once for a short amount of time, driving down road I was positive every body panel was going to rip off when it was up to speed, the suspension and absutly everything about it sucked. You also pull LTL which is a lot harder than pulling a 53' box like i do. If what you are saying is the complete truth, you are doing a lot more work than I am in every aspect. I also think if you stick with the LTL gig, that in a few years you will be leaps and bounds ahead of me. I am making about same as I was making when I quit construction, I was happy with my wage back then and am happy with about the same wage now. I am to old to get greedy and tear my self up again, if I was a few years younger be a different story.

    One last thing, I drive a real truck!.

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  3. American-Trucker

    American-Trucker Road Train Member

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    That must be nice, I used to drive a pete doing some local work, i wish i still had one lol


    I wasnt kidding, today I left Conover, NC (my home terminal) with a 1,600 mile 22 stop load, I drove a little over 700 miles today and did 1 stop in IL, tomorrow i'll drive like 3 hours then play around all day at Iowa 80. Then mon-wen i'll put off the other 21 stops in IA and NE. Total pay for the load = $896

    oh and I do pull a 53' trailer :biggrin_2559: with a sleeper and deliver to places i wouldnt willingly take a straight truck! haha





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  4. Sequoia

    Sequoia Road Train Member

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    Sorry, that's incorrect. Layover doesn't count if you're under a load and detention doesn't count while you're being unloaded.

    Layover: Your company has you deliver on Friday. You don't get dispatched on another load until Monday. Saturday and Sunday would qualify for layover pay since you were available for dispatch but nothing was available.

    Detention: Your delivery appointment is Friday at 0600. Because of delays at the consignee you don't get into a dock until noon. Now subtract how many "free hours" your company allows before detention time starts (anywhere from 1-4 hours) and the remainder is what you qualify for.
     
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  5. Bazerk Wizz Bang!

    Bazerk Wizz Bang! Medium Load Member

    Different company's do have a lot of different policies regarding just about everything. Both CRE and company I am with now paid detention for both loading and unloading. I would imagine just about every different company is going to have a different take on it. Some may not include such compensations, but may have other compensations others do not have or any combination. Its just whatever compensations each companys managment wants to give there drivers in any form they decide. Unless you two work for the same company in which what I just wrote is completely usless.
     
  6. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    Depends on the company. I was delayed at a shipper on Friday to the point that I couldn't make it back to the yard to go home till Saturday morning due to HOS. They paid me $150 layover for it on top of detention pay.
     
  7. madmoneymike5

    madmoneymike5 Medium Load Member

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  8. Vrobb

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    So if i get to a consignee at 7pm on Wednesday but cant get unloaded until Thursday at 7:30pm, would that be the same as detention pay?? Or would i even be able to claim it since it was my fault for being early?
     
  9. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    ^^^ Detention usually detention does not start until 1-2 hours after the appointed time provided you showed up on time.

    Some companies have offered to pay "detention under load" and list the situation in their handbook, but fat chance of getting that. Most companies will refuse to pay detention even if promised and often come up with the lame excuse "that the shipper does not pay detention and therefor they do not owe it to you."
     
  10. reverendhandy

    reverendhandy Medium Load Member

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    There is another type of layover as well.
    You have a delivery appt say Tuesday at 1100. You get there at 1030 and check in. By no fault of your own, say the crane breaks down. They don't get it up until 800 the following day, you get unloaded by 1400 that afternoon, because they have to unload the trucks in order.
    Now even though be true definition, this would classify as detention, for tax purposes, most companies will pay this type of event as layover.
    A lot of companies will not pay layover if you say delivered on Friday and your next load doesn't pick til Monday, because from a business stand point, that is not layover.
    Layover is generally paid, when by no choice of your own, the load cannot be picked when it was scheduled to be picked and you have to wait.
    Detention on the other hand is generally paid when you are on time, and after a set time frame you are still waiting.
    The standard use to be 2 free hours, after that you started earning detention, which ceased once you were loaded.
    More and more companies no longer are doing 2 hours. I see more and more going to 3 hours.
    If you haul any specialized or oversized, a lot of companies are now going to 4 hours.
     
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  11. inandoutoftrouble

    inandoutoftrouble Road Train Member

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    Legally NOT getting paid for working additional FREE hours, HOLY MOSES!!

    God bless every American and their families! God bless the U.S.A.!

    OTR & LTL - over the mountains - through the woods - coast to coast - sea to shining sea
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    The OTR & LTL truck drivers of America are positively the driving force of our economy.
     
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