differences between US and Sweden

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  1. Walle_W

    Walle_W Bobtail Member

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    Hi there.

    My name is Anders and i am driving truck in Sweden. Just wanted to tell you a little about the trucks in Sweden. And please have patience with my spelling..

    The trucks in Sweden is a little different from yours.. Mainly by two reasons.

    1. Lenght regulation in Sweden INCLUDES CAB. Max 24meters (78.74ft)
    2. Max weight is 60 metric tons. (if i did math right it should be 66.13 US ton.)

    The truck i drive is a 1994 Volvo FH16-520. With a 3-geard range/split (total 12 gears) gearbox. Fully syncronized. No dubbel clutching or floating here.. (Do you really use unsync. gearboxes?! i have always believd that it was a roumor here in Sweden until i read the "Facts about trucks")
    The last axle on truck can be lifted with hyudralics when going empty to get more traction an less tire wear. The drive axle has a reduction in the hub (don´t know the right word there but you will figure it out)
    And brakes on all wheels. Someone told me that you don´t have brakes on the front wheels??

    The roads in Sweden are dominated by Volvo and Scania. After six years of driving in Sweden i have seen 2! US trucks on the roads here.

    I ment to post a picture here but i have not posted enough yet picture to come! It´s a 3-axle truck and a 4axle trailer.

    (All weights in metric tons)

    This truck weighs 12tons and can carry a payload of 14ton = 26ton
    The trailer weighs 8tons and can carry a payload of 28ton = 36tons

    But since road legal max is 60ton i try to have 26ton on truck and 34 on trailer. (Yeah we have snow here :) )

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  3. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The front axle has brakes required except for trucks pre-dating that requirement, sometime in the seventies.

    Most tractors pulling tandem trailers are also tandems, meaning both drivers actually do turn under power. There are a few tandem tractors pulling that have one driven axle and a tag axle, which is usually able to be raised via air pressure to give more weight to the driven axle and more traction. We do have single axle tractors pulling single, double, and triple single axle trailers with a dolly between the trailers, we also have turnpike doubles and triples which are pulled by tandem tractors on tollways. The triples are only allowed on and close to turnpikes as are the turnpike doubles(and triples where allowed).

    I have seen two 53 foot trailers behind an OTR tractor, that combination rig would be over 130 feet long, well in excess of 40 meters.

    The transmissions are not fully synchronized in big trucks in this country, except for a few imported from northern Europe, I have never seen one of those here. Double clutching is used by some, floating by others, neither of those work for the fully synchronized transmission.
     
  4. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Hey, welcome to the forum. Nice to have you here. Its always interesting to hear about the industry in other countries.

    I can help you post that picture if you want me to, I'll send you a PM.
     
  5. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    long ago in the 70's we had length restrictions. Once they were lifted you see almost no cab over engine design trucks like you are used to seeing.

    Yes our gearboxes are unsyncronized although we are seeing more and more automatic transmissions every day.

    Most our tractors are three axle and most our trailers have two axles but you do see almost any number of axles for specialized transportation. with 5 axles we can gross 40 ton (us) it breaks down as 12,000 pounds on steer axle. 34000 pounds on each set of tandem axles. If your trailer has a spread of 10 feet between the ales you can put 40000 pound on them but still not gross more than 80,000 pounds.

    front brakes on tractors were mandated on any tractor built after January 1, 1982 although most trucks were being built with them in the late 70's

    Most the company owned trucks will have 10 speed transmissions here although as mentioned automatics are becoming very common. I expect we will see almost all automatics in the next 5 years in company owned trucks. Most of the owner operator trucks will have more gears, either 13, 15 or 18.
     
  6. Walle_W

    Walle_W Bobtail Member

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    This truck fully loaded takes an average of 5.2liter on 10km or 4.52 miles per gallon.

    Also in Sweden if your drive truck without trailer you can go 90km/h or 55.92miles/h. The truck also has a limiter that limits top speed to 90km/h.
    With trailer max speed is 80km/h or 49.7miles/h

    Driving time regulations looks a little bit like this.
    4.5h drive then 45min break
    4.5h driver then 11hour dailybreak.

    but twice a week u can drive one extra hour. And three times a week you can shorten your dailybreak to 9 hour. 6 peridos like this and then you must have 48hour weekbreak. Wich also can be shortend to 24hour once a month.

    All trucks over 3.5mtons have a logg that makes a line on a round paper card and shows driving time and speed. The penalty/fines in Sweden has become redicoulus after new year.. If you drive a couple of minutes to long or have a couple of miutes to short break the standard fine is 3500sek or 540$. And if you have done two wrongs they just double it..
    If there is something wrong with the truck the owner gets the fine not the driver.

    I make 20$ per hour and also a pay when im sleeping in truck of 46$ a night and it totals to about 46000$/year minus tax that is in faboulus Sweden 33%

    One gallon of diesel in Sweden is 4,67$ for a company. And 7$ for private use. Gasoline costs the same.

    This truck im driving should have been replaced last summer unless the enginge wouldnt have broke down.. it lasted 1170000km (720000miles) and due to the delivery time of a new truck we had to replace the engine so now the truck will not be replaced for another year or so (Volvo replacement engine 30000$). Hopfully this time i will get a Scania.

    Is Scania sold in the US? I believe it was sold there long ago like the 80´s Scania 142?
    It´s a shame because i rather drive Scania than Volvo (just my taste).
    The Scania uses their own 16litre V8 wich comes as 500, 580 and 620hp

    It´s realy funny when either Scania or Volvo realeses a new engine because the other one will reply...

    Volvo makes 470hp
    Scania makes 500hp
    Volvo makes 520hp
    Scania makes 530hp
    Volvo makes 570hp
    Scania makes 580hp
    Volvo makes 610hp
    Scania makes 620hp
    And the latest Volvo has 660hp (And is more fuel efficient then my old 520)
    Scania yet to come but the military version of their engine puts out well over 800hp..
     
  7. myminpins

    myminpins Road Train Member

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    Good morning and welcome to the board :) I'm in Nova Scotia, Canada, and things are pretty much the same here in Canada as in the USA when it comes to trucking.

    You are not paid at night and are usually paid by the mile, anywhere from 30 cents per mile to 46 cents per mile.

    We have completely unsynchronized transmissions here as well and some automatics are coming. A lot of the trucks here are either super 10 speeds or 13 speeds. Volvos are very popular here as are Freightliners, Kenworths and Peterbuilts.

    You can usually drive 105 km/hr in most trucks, with or without a trailer. A lot of trucks are becoming governed now (which means you cannot go any faster than they set the governor). Most here are set to 105 km/hr. Most owner operators have no governors and can go whatever the speed limit is posted.

    On a lot of large roads, the truck speed is often 10 km/h less than the speed for cars.

    Gas here in Canada is now $1.09/litre, though it was up to $1.13 just awhile ago. Diesel has recently become even more expensive than gasoline, by two to four cents per litre.

    Average miles per gallon here in a lot of trucks is around 5. It really depends on the truck, the terrain, the load, etc.

    So glad to see you here and your English is excellent. Welcome aboard :)
     
  8. Walle_W

    Walle_W Bobtail Member

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    Thank you, and i must say i like your picture of the red Volvo. That Volvo is not even sold in Sweden, i have never seen one in real life..
     
  9. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    have you ever seen on of these Walle?

    [​IMG]

    Our speed limits are all over due to the varying areas. Around a city it will be 55mph, most the interstates between towns are 65mph. When you get out west in the open areas it will be 70 or 75 mph. There is roads in west TX with no speed limits at all.

    fuel mileage run 5 to 7 mpg.

    We don't have scenias. You would actually be very hard pressed to ind any cab over trucks anymore. The excepton to that would be some car haulers and boat haulers who use a cabover with a short bed on the truck itself, mabey 30 feet long and then another trailer behind them.

    Our tax bracket isn't as high as yours. Sweden is pretty netorious for it's taxes. Our vary depending on where you live because there is a federal income ta and then there is also a state income tax and the state one will vary from state to state. When I lived IN Wisconsin it was about 10% but here in Texas there is no state income tax and they just have a higher sales tax. In Wisconsin I was paying proabably a total of 25% to income taxes but I would get some back at the end of the year. Our income tax is "Progresive" depending on income so at the end of the year you do your yearly tax forms and depending on your income level you find out if you paid enough taxes or too much and then you get some back. It would be a good system if it wasn't so complicated and so biased to the highest income levels
     
  10. Sportster2000

    Sportster2000 Road Train Member

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    Hello Walle W. I have had and am having an experience right now with a truck similar to what you all drive in Sweden. This one is a Daewoo Novus made by Tata. I would post a link to it but I don't think that I am allowed to so you can look it up on the internet. They will be coming your way in a few years. Right now they are only marketed at the asian market, mainly South Korea where they are made. You have to use the clutch in it. The rear most axle is a tag axle. Single axle drive cab over and the bed if you want to call it that is very small and located directly behind the drivers seat. It is a strange looking beast and I do get funny looks from other drivers here in the States although it is here just for testing purposes. If you find a picture of it, it will be the gray/silver one with the purple and blue graphics on the side. It is just about the opposite of all the other trucks in the states.
     
  11. PackRatTDI

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    I believe it was the FMVSS (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard) #121 passed in 1975 that required all trucks to have front axle brakes.

    FWIW Volvo tried to sell it's 14 speed syncronized box in the late 90's but it didn't sell very well. Also Scania sold trucks briefly in the US that had syncronized boxes. I think most of those were vocational market trucks (construction, etc) with the minority being OTR sleeper rigs. The small dimensions of the european sleepers didn't help.

    It's not unusual to catch a glimpse of a Scania truck near where I live as they have gained a bit of a foothold in the Mexican market.
     
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