Discussion about weight and # of miles driven in a year

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by ironeagle2006, Jul 30, 2010.

  1. Iceman_biker

    Iceman_biker Light Load Member

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    Does every driver on here think they are the only ones that can drive. I do have a little concern over the guy I saw with his head leaned back pooring Dorito crumbs out of the bag down his throat. LMAO :biggrin_25523::biggrin_25523:
     
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  3. MidSouth

    MidSouth Light Load Member

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    Something to think about 34000 is the legal limit on a tandem axle but by simply buying a permit i can go up to 40000. So i guess when that is done it suddenly becomes unsafe.
    So by that process i can legally haul a 100000 lb load in some states
     
  4. end of the road

    end of the road Heavy Load Member

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    Laws are there for a reason, and yes I am sure there is some sort of buffer for safety. You are not driving a car, and when small little mistakes or accidents happen with a 100,000 pounds of steel and freight...people die.

    We all edge over these limits from time to time but as a habit I think we owe it to our profession and to our families to try to live within the safety guidelines.
     
  5. Iceman_biker

    Iceman_biker Light Load Member

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    So do you honestly believe that all the DOT regs are for safety? If so why do they write us tickets for inoperative lights but 4 wheelers do it all the time. If a 4 wheeler were to be caught driving for 15 hours straight, they wouldn't make him stop. Now I do agree some of it is safety, but some of it is just for revenue. Just like speeding tickets, the only entity that has proven that speed kills is the DOT. Not trying to start an arguement just my opinion. :biggrin_25523::biggrin_25523:
     
  6. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    :occasion5:

    I owe ya one for that little giggle.... Well said.
     
  7. dieselbear

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    I can show you countless collisons where speed has killed. Speed in and of itself may not kill you, but other factors that occur before, or during the collision will.

    Had a wreck last week, 19 year old female in a four wheeler. The download of her on board recording device showed at the time she was travelling 82 mph in a 50 zone. She was passing a car, roads were wet from recent rainfall, she encountered a vehicle coming in the opposite direction, slammed on her brakes in an attempt to sneek in between the two cars she was trying to pass. The vehicle fish tailed, she lost control and drove onto the shoulder and from all indications and all evidence we collected she had to have then turned the wheel hard left and crossed the center line broadside in an all wheel skid and was T-boned by a pickup. The force of the impact was great. The pickup was travelling 54 mph at the time of the collision, the car lossed about 17 mph off the original 82 mph with the skid and braking action. On the passenger side, there was 37 inches of intrusion by the pickup. The female died before the fire and rescur personnel could extract her from the vehicle.

    SO you're right speed doesn't kill, it's everything else that occurs because of the speed. Hell look at the Dale Earnhardt collision. Speed is what caused his death. 190 plus into the wall, a failed seatbelt results in a skull fracture. Hell I have seen him take much worse looking hits like at Talladega a few years before that when he flipped over and was T boned. But with most of those wrecks, he had something that would disapate the speed, like the roll over, and skidding action. At Daytona in 2001, there was nothing to skim any speed off, it was wide open at full speed into the concrete and the full energy of the crash was exerted on his body, which was too great. The faster you go, the greater risk for injury and or death will occur. That is why the speed limit laws are in effect.
     
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  8. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    Agreed, sir. The higher velocity the vehicle is traveling, the harder the impact will be to its contents.

    But plees to esplenn: How does the permit for that 120K truck make it safer to conduct down the road than my 80K rated vehicle with, say, an extra grand on it? I believe that was one of the questions on the floor as well. Not that I would haul it, but I have been a few hundred over on rare occasion...because I put on more fuel than intended. (I meant licensed...the truck itself is rated for 92K....yep. It's a S***Spreader)
     
  9. Les2

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    It really doesn't make anything safer. What your not getting is, we who haul permit loads usually don't have regular outfits. My suspension is beefed up, trailer is built stronger than most and a few other things. The big difference is the one behind the wheel.
     
  10. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    I'm glad someone else said it....Nobody likes to hear it from a Halfbreed chick.:biggrin_25522:
     
  11. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    The permit does not make it safer. The trucks I see that are running 100K plus with permit loads are not 5 axle rigs, they usually have 7 or 8 axle which spread the weight out over a greater distance. The permits in my State require the truck to operate at 45 mph as a maximum speed. I understand there are some loads that are indivisible for which a permit is required.
     
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