Dispatcher tries to force driver to drive tired. *MUST SEE*

Ha Ha Love it !

 

You know one side sees it one way and the other side sees it their way. But if it ever went to court it would have to be the legal way ! After what I've read on here and according to HOS rules. Abe came off a 2nd. 10 hour break. If he had hours available on his 70 hour recap,he was legally obligated to finish the run. Yes I know about the law about if a driver becomes ill or tired.But as a professional driver,it's his responsibility to manage his schedule and put the big boy panties on !!

 

wrong

Abe has an obligation to work safely. That he did.

K&B has an obligation to create a safe work environment and exposure to the public. They failed in that.

Abe has no obligation "legally" to use any of his 70 hours. You are confused by dispatcher BS. Now don't get you panties in a bunch.

In a court, any court for the next decade K&B will loose any court case with this video out. They will settle richly with the victim of the next accident they get in.

Do you think the owner would "accept full responsibility" if that was not the case.

 

What are you missing?

The time it took to get in the gate and check in with security.
The time it took to drive their lot and find the dock/slot to drop the trailer.
The time it took to unhook and actually do the drop.
The time it took to go back to the truck stop (if he did so).
The time it took to drive back to the shipper.
The time it took to get in the gate and check in with security.
The time it took to locate his trailer.
The time it took to hook up and do a pre-trip inspection.
The time it took to get his paperwork for the load.
The time it took for him to check out with security and leave the premises.

 

Mr. Bulldog Personal Responsibility would be too much like right in this situation. It's the mean bad company, and some even say he should be paid for not preparing himself for the run. KB will get enough of this character and his antics and will one day get rid of him. Until then that's K&B Transport, and It's customer base problem.

 

You'd think by reading some of these post some have never worked swing shift before.

Beside the issue at hand employers do check up on employees and potential candidates via social media. I'd say Abe pissed in own Cheerios.

He'll learn the hard way you don't spill your guts on the internet.

 

You know, I was going to comment about that and decided to see how long it took for others with FB accounts to dig a little and read up.

Here's my impression. He's a typical twenty-something year old that still has not matured enough to see his own contribution into the things that make him unhappy. He'll continue to be his own worst enemy until he figures that out. The good news is that he is not the Lone Ranger. So it's not something the grown men and women he works with haven't seen and dealt with before.

Regardless of his personal shortcomings, he's enthusiastic about his chosen career. If that weren't the case, I am certain K&B would have at least shifted him to a position he could do no harm from, or gone ahead and fired him. But they didn't, so that tells me they see at least a little bit to work with. Look people, I can tell you from first-hand experience that big companies aren't afraid of lawsuit threats. It's a lot easier to bump up the legal retainer and take action than it is to cater to someone making threats. The fact that K&B didn't take action is telling. Not that they're scared, but that they still see some value with Abe despite his public drama.

I also believe he's probably a whole different person when face to face versus when he's posting on FB or drawing people into his sleepy-time episode. My take away from FB is that he's probably a good guy behind all the Bravo Sierra. I think that guy is the one that spoke with K&B leadership to find a way forward, not the FB caricature or the victim in the video.

Now, after all that, if he hasn't picked up a clue about his own role in how this drama played out, he will have a very short future there at K&B, and as a driver at any carrier. Hopefully he will also realize that stuff you post on the internet is forever, and he's got a big stinking pile of it out there. I know it's what young folks do these days, and it sure is great to have the whole world at your fingertips when the mood strikes. Thing is, that's hard to undo. As rank pointed out, that stuff will be looked at from now on, any time he's considering a career move. Hopefully he will figure that out and start burying the unruly past with posts and videos that reflect maturity and growth. I honestly do hope things work out better for him.

 

I am absolutely amazed how many of you know Abe better then Abe knows himself.

 

Always two sides to a story.

And this is a diverse group here with a wide range of knowledge.

 

I honestly don't think it was premeditated like that. Abe isn't mature or sophisticated enough for a play like that. I believe he was pissed about the consecutive break and stayed up grousing about it. When drive time started and he got tired, he decided to get his recorder out and "stick it to The Man."

You don't. With 10 hours notice you have plenty of time to do something active for a few hours. I will clean my truck, sweep the trailer with the broom instead of the 12v leaf blower, work out, run laps, whatever it takes. And then go back in the bunk with the lights and electronics off and get some more hours of sleep that is timed to end about a half hour before you must start driving.

Is it a perfect match to a circadian rhythm? No. Will you feel all rested the same as sleeping 8 hours straight in a dark and silent room? No. Key question: is it enough to remain alert enough to make a 6-7 hour drive? YES! I do it all the time. Did it at both ends of the last trip I completed.

The catch is that it's not sustainable. You will grow a sleep deficit if you do that continuously, and that's just as bad as not getting sleep in the first place. So you do have to be responsible and limit how much you do that. Looking back at my own habits for an example, I'll run hard 2-3 days completing an LTL run with multi drops. Most know how that works. Tight scheduling. Odd sleep times that closely match HOS limits. When the load is complete, I usually do an off-day to get me back to 100%.

It's counter-intuitive, but I am more profitable doing it that way. When I'm running with some level of exhaustion, I'm not on my game. I don't have the patience with customers I normally have, and that costs me time and money. I'm less willing to negotiate a hard bargain when I'm seeking a reload. More cost. Better to eat a day or two and come back wide open for business.

The problem is that many lack the self discipline or motivation to make that work.