Do cops ask to search the truck?

Agreed. The caveat is when reasonable suspicion has been ascertained by a LEO, refusal to answer his questions can and does often morph into probable cause and we all know what that can lead to.

 

Only because people WANT it to.

So sit there, smile and look pretty. Do nothing and say nothing.

Let the cop make an ### out of himself and explain any bad behavior either to a supervisor or a judge.


Again, you are under ZERO obligation to answer any question. You even have the right at that point to ask if you are being detained or arrested or are you free to go.

 

Using that belief, when a police officer has pulled you over and has reasonable suspicion (for ANYTHING) then you WANT to be arrested because once an officer has established reasonable suspicion and you refuse (note: YOUR choice) to answer any questions he now has probable cause and the right to arrest you. Once reasonable suspicion turns to probable cause you have no right to ask for and be granted a supervisor be called to the scene. What happens afterward with any judge or supervisor has nothing to do with the fact that he can and probably will arrest you for refusing to comply with his investigation which began the moment he/she established reasonable suspicion.

 

probable cause for what?

Maintaining my 5th amendment rights?


It's HIS burden of proof to show that I violated the law. I have to give him nothing.

If it's for a speeding ticket, signing the ticket is NOT admitting guilt. It's just acknowledging you received a summons to appear in court for a speeding violation.

Saying ANYTHING is going to hang you.

Or didn't you watch the video on WHY you don't talk to police.

 

Can't remember where I heard it, (probably youtube) but not answering questions or denying a search does NOT constitute reasonable suspicion. Helping them in ANY way will never help you in court.

Watch the video!!!!!!

 

I've had my truck searched a couple times crossing the border back into the States from Canada. Wanted passwords to my laptops too.

 

Question, how does a sleeping bag get you points on your CSA? What is that all about?

They can inspect the interior as well? W/O permission? Did they ask to search?

 

Called and talked with a friend of mine tonight. He's been a Federal LEO with INS/DHS for over 18 years now. Let's just say we had a nice long talk about this thread.

And he reiterated the same thing the video I posted. "Why WOULD you tell a cop anything? I am trying to put you in jail with anything you say." You have no obligation to tell them anything. If an officer can see anything in plain sight, that's all he's entitled to. So don't even open your door. Roll your window down.

If you get out of the truck, close your window, close your door behind you.

If he says he pulled you over for suspicion of drunk driving, blow into the little white pipe and be done with it. When you come up clean, he has no grounds to hold you.

Even if they threaten to hold you till a drug dog shows up, they cannot unduly detain you. Meaning they can't hold you for 12 hours until fido is available and on duty.


Anything past that, you simply played into the officers game.

Even if a cop walks around a corner and you take off running. He has neither reasonable suspicion nor probable cause to stop you or arrest you.

"Officer Jones, why did you arrest this man?"

"Because he ran when I came around the corner."

Dismissed. He has NOTHING.

 

What were theymplanning or did they do with with passwords?

 

Probable cause for WHATEVER his reasonable suspicion is for pulling you over. You clearly do not understand reasonable suspicion as in the eye of the law. The LEO does NOT need ANY -proof- of anything to pull you over. Reasonable suspicion is based on his BELIEF, not proof, this is fact (read the court's directive).

Your assumptions are based on the false belief all LEOs follow the letter of the law which is patently false. When a LEO pulls you over for reasonable suspicion (regardless what HIS reason is) and you refuse to answer any questions at all, his suspicion (again, of WHATEVER he says it is) can and often is elevated to probable cause of WHATEVER he based his reasonable suspicion on and can be as simple as him saying you're hiding something else. Never mind that you're innocent ... yes you can and will have a chance to clear yourself AFTER THE FACT BUT it will NOT stop or prevent you from getting arrested when you clam up when a LEO has stopped you for reasonable suspicion under his belief that you committed a transgression of the law. It's cut and dry and not predicated on any other factors or what happens afterward. What I'm saying is you can most certainly get arrested for refusing to speak to a cop if he is investigating (questioning) you for a crime he believes you MAY have committed.

"Saying anything is going to hang you" is not accurate. Truth-in-advertising is more accurately written as "Saying anything CAN hang you." Not disagreeing here.