Do I have a future in the Trucking industry? Brutal honesty please.

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  1. RiggedGame

    RiggedGame Bobtail Member

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    Hi crew!

    Thank everyone for taking the time to click on his thread. I would greatly appreciate any thoughts and/or advice by trucking old hands as well as new truckers who have found jobs in the last few years.

    I have been bouncing around reading a number of articles and posts on various boards. I have huge concerns about entering the trucking industry in 2016. Yup... 2016.


    WHY DO I WANT TO DRIVE??!!

    > I want to drive trucks because it still affords independence that office jobs simply do not have.
    > I have come to the conclusion I do not like offices/schools and their politics.
    > I can train for it and jump in; I do not see additional endorsements as a huge barrier.
    > I am willing to bust my #####
    > I need a job that will carry me with "decent" wages for ten years and I am out. This is perfect.
    > My education might be noticed and I might get a better gig, but I am happy to keep on truckin' and keep on collecting a paycheck.
    > Drive shuttles and school buses, etc... Another possibility, especially as I age.
    > Wife and I will definitely in time get an RV. We love camping and US National Parks
    * I think if someone were to view my package with an open mind, I make a great entry level driver.

    My main concern is getting a job, especially in Florida

    We will be relocating to Jacksonville/Orlando (live in St. Augustine?), but it could be anywhere. Trouble is my wife needs to be in an area that she can do nails. She has a BA, but her degree is from outside the US. Her spoken English is good, but written/reading skills weak. Nails will be great for her.

    Worried about Florida in general. Jacksonville 13% unemployment. But, I have a free condo for six months in S. Florida. The state is somewhat near my elderly parents. We are not in love with Florida (we both find Utah beautiful and love her parks) but I sure do not want to drive or be in snow. We can't go back to CA. It's too crowded, too expensive. Too far from parents. We will adjust well in FL. It has a lot to offer us.

    I am originally from CA but have lived in Washington, DC many years back. Traveled and driven all over the US. 40 states. Lived decades abroad. I already know many metro areas but not going OTR so it matters not. haha.


    My next major concern is jobs requiring experience which is to say - everyone.

    Often a minimum of a year and is asking for six mos to two years OTR.

    I do not want to do any OTR trucking because I am recently married and want time with my wife. She will also need my assistance driving her about and adjusting to the US as we are coming from abroad. We can't a second car and afford the move to US, move to FL, renting a place and money while hooking up jobs. It is just not a good fit.

    Ironically, OTR is a perfect life for me (us) as I have literally been stumbling around Asia for over twenty years. But, we need to get settled. I will need local work. I am not opposed to the OTR lifestyle, but need to stay with my wife. My wife needs to work for SS 40 quarters (10yrs) otherwise we would go OTR. It would be a blast. We are born hobos.

    I understand a lot of companies want you to go thru their training so they get additional Federal monies. They might not even live up to the promise of hiring you and if they do, it might be a horrible job and/or at awful wages.


    So, if I might break it all down for you, the positives and negatives.



    The Positive Side:


    1. Move to FL from MD and have a CDL in hand on arrival.
    2. Pass tests/endorsements (after arrival in FL seems best). Perhaps all but doubles/triples - which I really do not want. I do OK with book learning, take tests and classes seriously.
    3. Enroll in community college CDL course in MD (I understand the quality of CC is often better and costs lower). This may be thought of more highly than for-profit schools, certainly some of them surely.
    4. I'm hands on and understand the basics of auto mechanics. I rebuilt and maintained a few old cars as a kid. Hey, it's something.
    5. I am 53, older, mature and more steady. My health is great. I am soft, but not overweight and look younger.
    6. Screened thru Livescan for teaching jobs in Los Angeles (2001). Held teaching certificate 2001-05 (addresses background checks).
    8. Bachelor's degree (from a pretty good school). Useless HAHAa
    9. No convictions of anything other than traffic 4 years ago from this date.
    10. No drugs. Drinking will never get in the way of my job. I quit smoking years ago.
    11. I have been abroad many years but can get personal references from friends here in US surely.
    12. Organized and good record keeper. I take these things seriously.
    13. Very good with electronics. Worked in IT for ten years.
    15. Drivers license is clean. One speed trap ticket in Utah, 2010. It was low MPH (going 40 in a 25, that sort of BS). I had a sort of DUI thing thirty years ago, cops wrote me up and told me to park my car. I went to court, to a class. The police have no record of me, I wrote to them five+ years ago about it.
    16. I can still take a beating on the road, While not driving - I do 13 hour bus rides often.
    17. I am very good about finding answers and solutions to problems quickly.
    18. Present myself well. Resume + cover in hand, on time, company research, properly dressed, well spoken.
    19. OH, I can drive a stick really well.


    The Negative Side: - I am a ghost

    1. I am returning from abroad and my work record is spotty at best. Truth is, I have enough money to live here until I hit 62 easy. *Returning for the wife. She really wants to be a US citizen. I want her to get 40Q in for Social Security. So, living abroad for fifteen years. Difficult to verify with schools and freelance work here.
    2. Prior jobs: Worst luck. Most of the jobs I had held from 92-2002 (maybe not even belong on my resume so old?) - almost all the companies went under or bought out. These are not small mom and pop storefront shops, many were publicly traded. The positive is that in most if not all cases, I was able to obtain written job verification and dates on company letterhead. Some are refs others are dates of employment. All are really old. Very sketchy work record post 2001.
    3. Job References: Printed employment verification pre 2000, but overseas work is spotty and not 100% verifiable.
    4. I have only been freelancing for the last four years. The money has never been over US9,600 so no need to even file. No taxes either. So they won't see that if they tap that background.
    5. I used to have excellent credit. I have only bounced one check in my life and that was BofA's fault. I had small loans on two cars which I paid off quickly. I HATE credit. Last year I applied online at the three major credit agencies. It appears they do not even have a record of me anymore. I am a ghost.
    6. Bachelor's degree - I am worried this will be held against me for whatever reason.
    7. I am 53 at present (55 perhaps when I would even start to drive). OLD / too OLD to start?
    8. Perhaps I present myself TOO well and thought of as too this or that. In essence - "not a trucker".


    **I worry some will think I have been sitting in prison as well. I'd read this about gaping holes in work. I do have all my six passports, hundreds of pages, tons of visas...I can show my time abroad, my wife's visa processing, 7500 Facebook photos, 4000 of me/us in Asia.


    QUESTIONS:

    Can I get a job driving locally? How difficult do you think it will be for me, what problems do you think I might encounter?




    I am hungry for work, I do not care if I have to drive a garbage truck on graveyard shift for a year to get a start. I want to get back and get to work!





    Thank you for your attention.
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Is your wife from Vietnam?

    St Augustine would be an excellent location for hiring area for trucking companies. One new CDL graduate recently was hired by CTL Transportation in Jacksonville and home every night.

    Your degree won't hurt at all; in fact with the economy the way it is there are many MBA's, Masters, of all types entering trucking. You won't believe the ex-IT types entering this field.
     
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  4. RiggedGame

    RiggedGame Bobtail Member

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    Oh wow! I was editing my post to clean it up and you followed up so quickly. Thank you.

    No, she is Thai about as tiny though :) I've been living in Bangkok for four years with her and bouncing around East Asia, India and Nepal prior to that for about twenty years.

    -Well, thanks. That is some good news to read.
    -Could you comment on the gaping holes in my life :) How that might play out please. I will be investing 4K for a class A license. I am so worried.

    Will they just lok at my experience and that my background checks out, that I am a good fit for the company or is there a ton of drama like every job now?



    I see you live in Henderson. LAS was also a consideration although hot as Hades in Summer. Would be a great base for us as we just love the Zion-Bryce-Goblin-Arches-Canyonlands-Monument-Page-GCanyon circuit. Not so far from Yellowstone and GTNP AND Yosemite. We did them all and just need to come back. We love the parks and camping.

    Sorry, my post is not at all about trucking.
     
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  5. born&raisedintheusa

    born&raisedintheusa Road Train Member

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    As you go through the forum, you'll find that you're NOT too old to start a truck driving career.

    You do need to be able to pass the physical, along with presenting all the necessary information about yourself to any potential trucking company.

    One thing that you mentioned is that you are in a state near your elderly parents.
    There may come a time that you may have to help care for them. I helped my 2 younger sisters care for our elderly mother, before she passed away back in 2007, about 7 years ago. At the time, I had to leave the Midwest and fly back to the east coast to where our mother was living. I had to quit one job and find another. It took me about 7 months to find another job. This was in an area of 14% unemployment. Just as trucking is hard on family life, it is also hard on somebody trying to care for elderly parents. This really is something to think about.

    In the mean time, try to get and maintain a job for a full 3 plus years to help stabilize your employment record. A lot of this has to do with D.O.T. requirements put onto the trucking companies due to 911 back in 2001. Also, in the mean time, try to get yourself as healthy and physically fit in the next 3 years to help you with the physical. The D.O.T. has come down hard over the years on the health of professional drivers, (trucks, buses, etc.)

    Good luck to you, you can do it!!
     
  6. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Yes, I'm a Tennessean that moved my residence to Nevada last year; also a resident of mainland China. Some companies may require you provide notorized letters signed by family or aquaintancies to explain any gaps in employment. During those gaps you were looking for work, company out of business, etc. Any company you're interested in, contact the company and ask exactly what they require.

    CTL Transportation is a division of Comcar in Auburndale, FL. They have their own CDL school but hire from many 160 hr. + schools. Have to do some research to see what's available in Jacksonville area for local companies. Local home every night jobs are around, but you have to beat the bushes to find them.

    Study the endorsement and other tests, at the top of this page click on "CDL Practice Tests" which are the same questions the DMV tests will ask.

    Our home in Henderson is a little different; it's in a gated community within a gated community. Two association fees each month. Ten minutes from the Las Vegas strip. We found it on Redfin website. Home prices in Las Vegas are dropping again. I like hot weather, so that's one reason we chose Las Vegas area when I decided to leave Tennessee, plus no personal income tax in Nevada.
     
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    Good point; ensure your blood pressure and sugar levels are ok even if you must use medication. They may also check for sleep apnea which won't disqualify you though.
     
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  8. RiggedGame

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    Hi again and thanks - wee hours for you folks.

    Well, I certainly can provide family affadavits but it is nothing that six passports and 150 visas would not prove anyway.

    Whether related to 911 or 7-11. If I am going to be passed on because of my time out here, this is not worth persuing. If I cannot even get calls, get a chance to present myself.

    If you are talking about 3 years trucking, great. If you are talking about three years and then entering, that would make me about 59. I think it would simply be better to carry on with whatever I was doing until 62. So I am baffled a bit there.

    My blood pressure is high but is controlled by small amnt of medication. I'm less than 20lbs + my weight in high school. I don't snore. In American terms, I am very fit for 53. These are all the least of my problems honestly.
     
  9. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Don't worry, you can enter the trucking field. I found some stuff for local work around St. Augustine, but you must finish a CDL school first. Get the endorsements; tanker/hazmat/TWIC & get doubles as a backup.

    Averitt Express
    Trimac Transportation
    CCC Transportation (hauling dry bulk cement locally)
    USA Services of Florida
    Advance Auto Parts
    CTL Transportation
    Sysco

    After 12 months experience you can move on to companies such as Saia, ODFL, Estes or similar companies for more pay and good hometime. I know some Estes and Saia drivers are home every day.
     
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  10. kennyvcobb

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    my suggestion is stay in Asia.
    Stay in Asia is much easier earn money than trucking.I really cannot understand why your wife wants to be a US citizen.
    My suggestion is you should try to let her live in USA for serval months,I don't think she wants to do this.
    And even you come back ,she can find a job easily in USA?
    When you drive a truck,your marriage will be hard.If the company allowed her to go with you,or you can be an o/o,she can stay in a truck for months?
    your question actually should be
    "do your family have a future in the trucking business?"

    even you come back,she still needs visa to immigrate,that is a long time to apply.And it needs you to show at least 20000 income in 2014.You have to finish CDL,get a low pay job as a company driver.I guess you need at least more than one year can apply visa.(serval months CDL,join a company,then after one years you will get tax record then you can apply her visa) of course you can ask your family to help you the tax record.but if not,you have to wait a long time.And during the application ,she is hard to visit you.Are you sure your marriage will be ok?
    Be honestly ,your wife only wants green card,she knows nothing about USA.Life is hard.
     
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  11. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    kennyvcobb : Things have changed, she will get a 2 yr. green card as soon as she arrives on a CR Visa (spousal visa). Plenty of jobs for her in St. Augustine area; I Googled "Nail Salons" and got two pages of places around St. Augustine/Jacksonville. Most are owned by Vietnamese or other Asian women. Many American men now bring their Asian wife to the USA and as soon as they retire or draw social security, they move back to Asia and live the good life. She can work in the nail salon for 10 yrs./40 quarters and get her own social security check. If her husband dies before her, she has a choice of her social security check or his, whichever is bigger. They have a good plan. It's just a matter of being patient and following through on the plan. Without patience and following the proper steps; one day the years have slipped by and nothing was accomplished and you enter the retirement years old and alone.

    See my avatar, maybe getting old, but not alone. Took lots of hard work, but followed through on the plan with success.
     
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