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Do I Need A BOL If....

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Grumppy, May 29, 2014.

  1. May 29, 2014 #1
    Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    We by scrap plastic & recycle it into either Repro or those little pellets. When we establish a continuous relationship with a customer, we supply our own cardboard boxes (Gaylord boxes) to put the product in as they generate the scrap, then we come back & pick up the scrap in our boxes.

    When we transport empty boxes to the customer, they fold up flat, as do most cardboard boxes & we place 25 boxes to a pallet & will ship anywhere form about 50 to 250 boxes (2 - 10 pallets).

    Tomorrow, I will be taking an empty trailer, with empty, folded up boxes on a pallet(s) to a customer in another state. I will drop this empty trailer & pick up a full trailer that we previously left for them to fill with scrap using our boxes that we provide them.

    Do I need a BOL to transport the boxes to the customer?
     
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  3. May 29, 2014 #2
    rotax74

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    I would think so. Your trailer is not empty you have pallets of cardboard in the trailer.
     
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  4. May 29, 2014 #3
    magoo68

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    if you take 5 minutes to make a bol it could save you grief if inspected . not sure what the law states but i make a bol anytime i have anything even empty pallets or return product nowadays CYA is my norm as much as possible ps regardless of what you do make a note on your logsheet and you should be good
     
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  5. May 29, 2014 #4
    Allow Me.

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    I'll take a stab at this, anything used/needed for the transportation of product, such as chains binders wood aren't product and therefore need no BOL. 20 pallets in a pallet rack under your trailer need no BOL, right ? Now, your description of empty boxes, I would think, will need some documentation. But I can't say for sure.
     
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  7. May 30, 2014 #5
    ‘Olhand

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    If not a bol--then you could probably get away with a Bill of Sale--since you are transporting YOUR own product...But you WILL need some sort of documentation
     
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  8. May 30, 2014 #6
    gpsman

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    You're "laden" and involved in commerce.

    I assume you would need something documenting minimally; what's in the box, to whom it belongs, and the points of origin and destination... but if it's not transported interstate, perhaps not, (but it still might come in handy crossing scales):
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/title49/section/373.101
     
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  9. May 30, 2014 #7
    Allow Me.

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    Listen to GPSMAN, good advice. It's simple to write out a BOL, takes 2 minutes, your covered.
     
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  10. May 30, 2014 #8
    Mountain Hummingbird

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    we sometimes move tubing which is our own from well-sites where they were used back to the racks in our yard, and yes we do need a BOL for that so just to cover your butt make one out under description put company property.
     
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