I recently purchased the Take 3 Ultra Light 48 and the CA Highway Patrol told me that even if my load was 26k or under but the GVWR of the trailer was 10k or more I need my Class A CDL. Can anyone confirm or deny this? The funny thing is you don't go through the scales in CA with a dually/wedge combo apparently so is it just a rule that isn't enforced or would I be stopped to check the trailer rating etc. Any info would be great. Thanks
Do I need a CDL for the Take 3 Ultra Light 48 in CA if I stay at/under 26k?
Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by jwcalde13, Jun 6, 2018.
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The CA scale signs that say "no pickups" is what's causing confusion?
Yes, trailer over 10k or combination over 26 is CDL territory.Oldironfan, otterinthewater and Trucking in Tennessee Thank this. -
Your only hope is to put "Not For Hire" in big letters on the trailer.
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The officer is correct. In California if the trailer has a gvw of 10,001 lb or greater you are required to have a class A license. And regardless if you go through the scales or not, you would get caught. The DOT/CHP also does roadside inspections, traffic stops, and let’s not forget about when you’re called for your DOT audit. The auditor without a doubt would catch this. Putting not for hire on the side of a truck here in California will not protect you, in fact it’ll make them want to look you over even more.Lite bug Thanks this. -
Ok so yes. But make the load your property and not for hire on side. That is only way.
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Sorry I missed the question originally.
Here is a link the the CDL manual in California. It's on page 14. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/web/eng_pdf/comlhdbk.pdf
Is the GVWR.GVW 26,001 lbs or more? No
Is this a combination vehicle? Yes
Is the GVWR of the trailer/towed unit 10,001 lbs or more? Yes
Is the GCVWR 26,001 lbs or more? Yes needs Class A. No needs Class A with Restriction "88"
So yes, you will need a Class A for any trailer over 10,000. All keeping it under 26,001 gains you is the ability to to test and acquire a Class A with the rig you will be towing with.
NOTE: If an applicant performs the skills test in a Class A combination vehicle with a GCWR of less than 26,001 pounds, the CDL will be restricted to the operation of combination vehicles with a GCWR of less than 26,001 pounds (Restriction 88).brian991219 Thanks this. -
Also, California like some other states, have non-commercial class A & B license requirements as well. So, even if not for hire worked -which is doesn't, he still may need a class A license. See this excerpt from the California DMV website.
Driver License (DL) and Identification (ID) Card Information
A Noncommercial Class A DL is required if you tow:
- A travel trailer weighing over 10,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) which is not used for hire.
- A fifth-wheel travel trailer weighting over 15,000 lbs. GVWR which is not used for hire.
- A livestock trailer that is not for hire, weight over 10,000 lbs. GVWR but not over 15,000 lbs. GVWR, and is operated within 150 miles of the farm by a farmer to transport livestock.
- A housecar over 40 feet but not over 45 feet.
Exemptions: Holders of a Commercial Class A or B DL, a Noncommercial Class A DL, and all DL classes with a firefighter endorsement.
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