Do I need a physical?

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  1. Volvo670ISX500

    Volvo670ISX500 Bobtail Member

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    Class C drivers license driving a 19,500 GVWR box truck, do I need a Physical (Medical Card)? No hazmat loads no passengers
     
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  3. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    @Moose1958 should be along, i just rang his bell..

    i'd say yes, if the job falls under DOT regulations

    A class C driver's license is a special type of commercial driver's license (CDL). ... With a class C driver's license, you can drive delivery trucks, warehouse trucks, large passenger vans for 16 or more passengers, and small trucks transporting hazardous materials.
     
  4. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    What defines a commercial motor vehicle depends on things. For medical cards and logging a CMV is defined as anything over 10,001. For a CDL it is anything over 26,001. It can be confusing.
     
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  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    This can be confusing to some. If you look at 383.5

    Commercial motor vehicle (CMV) means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles used in commerce to transport passengers or property if the motor vehicle is a—
    (1) Combination Vehicle (Group A)—having a gross combination weight rating or gross combination weight of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more), whichever is greater, inclusive of a towed unit(s) with a gross vehicle weight rating or gross vehicle weight of more than 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds), whichever is greater; or
    (2) Heavy Straight Vehicle (Group B)—having a gross vehicle weight rating or gross vehicle weight of 11,794 or more kilograms (26,001 pounds or more), whichever is greater; or
    (3) Small Vehicle (Group C) that does not meet Group A or B requirements but that either—
    (i) Is designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver; or
    (ii) Is of any size and is used in the transportation of hazardous materials as defined in this section.

    However in 390.5 you see this,

    Commercial motor vehicle means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle used on a highway in interstate commerce to transport passengers or property when the vehicle—
    (1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating, or gross vehicle weight or gross combination weight, of 4,536 kg (10,001 pounds) or more, whichever is greater; or
    (2) Is designed or used to transport more than 8 passengers (including the driver) for compensation; or
    (3) Is designed or used to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver, and is not used to transport passengers for compensation; or
    (4) Is used in transporting material found by the Secretary of Transportation to be hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and transported in a quantity requiring placarding under regulations prescribed by the Secretary under 49 CFR, subtitle B, chapter I, subchapter C.

    Then there is this on the FMCSA website.

    All commercial drivers of vehicles in interstate commerce with a maximum gross vehicle weight rating of over 10,000 pounds (4,536 kilograms) are required to obtain and maintain a valid Medical Examiner's Certificate (ME Certificate)





    The first one is from the section setting up the CDL rules and APPLIES ONLY to the vehicles as detailed in the section.
    The next one is from the General driving rules section 390.

    This is one thing you must be careful about when doing rules research. The definitions can change depending on the topic.
     
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  6. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I will now get into the section about hours of service. In that section I first put up you see the word exceptions there for logging in 10,001 and higher up to 26,000. I know what is contained in 395.1 (e) (1)(2)

    (2) Operators of property-carrying commercial motor vehicles not requiring a commercial driver's license. Except as provided in this paragraph, a driver is exempt from the requirements of §§395.3(a)(2), 395.8, and 395.11 and ineligible to use the provisions of §395.1(e)(1), (g), and (o) if:
    (i) The driver operates a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle for which a commercial driver's license is not required under part 383 of this subchapter;
    (ii) The driver operates within a 150 air-mile radius of the location where the driver reports to and is released from work, i.e., the normal work reporting location;
    (iii) The driver returns to the normal work reporting location at the end of each duty tour;
    (iv) The driver does not drive:
    (A) After the 14th hour after coming on duty on 5 days of any period of 7 consecutive days; and
    (B) After the 16th hour after coming on duty on 2 days of any period of 7 consecutive days;
    (v) The motor carrier that employs the driver maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate and true time records showing:
    (A) The time the driver reports for duty each day;
    (B) The total number of hours the driver is on duty each day;
    (C) The time the driver is released from duty each day;
    (D) The total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with §395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.


    If you are driving a 10,001 or over CMV OTR and NONE of these exceptions apply to you YOU MUST LOG and follow the same HOS rules that OTR CDL drivers have to follow.
     
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  7. Volvo670ISX500

    Volvo670ISX500 Bobtail Member

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    Thank you so much for your help
     
  8. Volvo670ISX500

    Volvo670ISX500 Bobtail Member

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    Wow that is a lot of useful information. Thank you so much. This is all very helpful. After all its better to get the physical and hold it just in case
     
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  9. Moose1958

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    One thing I am not up to date on. I can't get anybody to tell me the correct way to do this. I am not sure your physical is available to the DOT because you are not operating a CDL. PLEASE make dang sure you get the FULL LONG FORM from the ME. Keep it close. Maybe one day I can get a definitive answer on this.
     
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  10. Allow Me.

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    Are you hauling freight for pay ? Or just personal items like a plumber etc ?
     
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