Do NOT stop for protesters

There was nothing I saw the justified driving on the wrong side of the road to initiate a confrontation.

 

Just curious, but was there anything you saw that justified a bunch of people blocking a road without a permit?

 

These people were there for one thing and one thing only

Even that dimwit from California went there to cause a big uproar if he was found not guilty
I don’t have her exact quotes but it was basically if not guilty then we need to pay. Or something like that

These people were there looking for a fight period and when they didn’t get that they were all confused on what to do

 

"Not guilty?! WTF are we supposed to do now? I was told there was free TV's. Wanna go smash some stuff?"

"Does a bear #### in the woods?"

"How should I know? I'm vegan."

"Oh yeah, lmao. Hey, let's mess with this semi truck."

 

What makes someone think that taking a ride downtown will be worse for them than fighting with a cop?


https://www.exonerationproject.org/app/uploads/2017/09/Watts-Victim-Chart.pdf
https://theintercept.com/series/code-of-silence/


You understand that getting arrested is a huge problem and that cops will plant evidence, but don't seem to have a problem with it occurring.

Posters have justified this driver's actions by shouting "Reginald Denny". In no way did Reginald Denny deserve what happened to him, in no way was it justified. But that happened in a riot from 28 years ago. A riot that occurred because the officers who beat Rodney King were exonerated. In the years preceding the Rodney King incident, claims of police misconduct rose by more than 30%, yet nothing was done. Hundreds of people were arrested, but never even arraigned because there was no cause to arrest them in the first place. Despite massive community action, nothing changed. Then 4 cops were caught on video beating a man. The police Chief, Daryl Gates said "I stared at the screen in disbelief. I played the one-minute-50-second tape again. Then again and again, until I had viewed it 25 times. And still I could not believe what I was looking at. To see my officers engage in what appeared to be excessive use of force, possibly criminally excessive, to see them beat a man with their batons 56 times, to see a sergeant on the scene who did nothing to seize control, was something I never dreamed I would witness." Despite that, the officers were exonerated.

Should Rodney King have stopped for the police? Yes.

Should he have shown any resistance when he was finally stopped? No.

Did those 4 officers have the right to beat him to a pulp? No, but they did it with impunity.

When officers of the state act with impunity and abuse their office, the people reserve the right to petition for redress. When that redress is not given, it is taken. It has always been thus, from the Magna Carta to Jack Cade to the Sons of Liberty. If you want to avoid riots, then demand justice. Minneapolis/St Paul rioted last year because they had no expectation that justice would be done. Nearly 3 decades after Rodney King the expectation was that Derick Chauvin was going to face no repercussions. That expectation is based on the fact that Philando Castille's murderer walked free. It's based on the fact that it took more than a decade to get Ronald Watts charged, and more than 2 decades for his subordinates to face repercussions while his superiors are enjoying their pensions and the prosecutors who knowingly suborned perjury still have their law licenses. It is based on the dozens of cases where video evidence has contradicted police statements (include Derick Chauvin's initial statements). It is based on the knowledge that Chicago's Police Union recently elected a president whose police powers had been revoked. It is based on Kenosha PD promoting an officer who was under investigation for excessive force and taking out several bill boards to advertise the promotion. It is based on the Kenosha Police Chief dismissing out of hand a WI DCI report that detailed officers lying, fabricating evidence, and willfully violating departmental policy to protect that officer.

"When hope is extinguished, we say "let us eat and drink for tomorrow we die" - Angelian Grimke

"When hope is removed from man's heart, what gushes out into history is violence" - Archbishop Pironio





Law Enforcement Misconduct

 

Picking Up The Pieces

Picking Up The Pieces

 

Officers caught lying under oath or in police reports should be punished the same as a regular citizen, file planting evidence under that category too. A regular citizen lying about police brutality should be open to personal lawsuits by that officer. Officers caught trying to entrap citizens by selling or distributing illegal objects or enticing illegal actions, such as getting them to cut a gun too short, should be prosecuted for that crime or conspiracy to commit said crime. Cutting a pile of ignorant laws and regulations would go a long ways towards reducing these issues too.

 

I would disagree that officers caught lying under oath should be punished the same as a regular citizen. As a public servant they should be held to a higher standard. But my disagreement is not important. What is important is the number of cops who get caught lying and ARE STILL ON THE JOB.

4 cops charged with lying under oath after video of drug bust shown in court

The Prevalence of Lying by Police is a Problem for the Innocent

Remember the hullabaloo when the Wayne County DA published a list of the officers who are Giglio impaired? The right wing media was aghast at the undermining of police integrity. Not about the police officers who were identified as lying under oath, but rather that their names had been published so any defense attorney could figure out which officers cannot testify. A better question is why ANY person who is barred from testifying is allowed to hold police powers.

Also remember the resistance to charging Derick Chauvin. He lied in his initial report.

 

Oh so NOW you want to treat them to be treated differently than citizens? NOBODY is anything more than a citizen. Punishments for breaking the law should be applied equally, whether you're a citizen, a law enforcement officer, or an ###### making the laws, nobody is anything more or less than the next person. That's equality we're supposed to be big on that aren't we?
Unions are why you still have officers guilty of perjury on the force would be my guess, who else is preventing them from being fired?

 

Qualified immunity