do overlength tickets affect csa?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by tray_atl, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    You need to tell your company safety dept right away. If none, tell your dispatcher. Each state is different and I would read your CMV manual. Some states require you report out of state tickets within 30 days.

    States like IL, MI and any northeastern state from PA on up you have to stay on federal and state highways unless they are marked. Of course it applies everywhere, but those are the we are going to bust you states. You stay off of all other roads unless there are signs designating it as a truck route.

    IL specifics.... Small towns have to designate and mark 5 miles of small roads to truck traffic to and from state and federal highways.
    Class I- max width 8', no max length
    Class II- max width 8', no max length, however max wheel base limited to 55 feet, doubles 60'
    Class III- max width 8', no max length, however max wheel base limited to 55 feet, doubles 65'

    There's a few exceptions for specialty loads like car haulers, pipes and logs.

    You always look at the front of your Rand McNally along with the highlighted maps. For local information, you call the customer and find the truck route in. Companies that supply routing over Qualcomm and PeopleNet is approved routing.

    If one is going to drive OTR, they need to familiarize themselves with state laws and actually do real trip planning.

    Like Roadmedic said, unless an inspection report was generated, this won't go on your CSA. Points on your MVR depends on the offense written. If it's oversize, I doubt any points. If it's like failure to obey a traffic control device, then you'll get a couple points.

    It's a lesson learned. Pay it and move on.
     
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  3. tray_atl

    tray_atl Bobtail Member

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    So since no inspection was performed it won't go on my or the companies CSA ? The officer told me I would have to get three of these tickets in one year for it to show on my MVR is that right? Sorry for all the questions this is my first and hopefully last ticket
     
  4. Roadmedic

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    Illinois has different rules than your home state.

    Illinois has a limit of 3 moving violations in a year. Not clear whether he was referring to that or not.
     
  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Wrong, and if you'd read my post above, you wouldn't have given bad info regarding Illinois.

    Class 1 roads are the same size & weight as allowed on the national network, except trailers longer than 48' must have no more than 45'6" from the kingpin to the rear trailer axle.

    Class 2 roads are the same size & weight as allowed on Class 1 roads, except doubles are restricted to 65' between the first & last axle.

    Class 3 roads are the same size & weight as allowed on Class 2 roads, except overall length is limited to 65' and/or 55' between the first & last axle, and kingpin to rear trailer axle is limited to 42'6" max. Doubles & other longer combinations are limited to 60'. The width USED to be restricted to 96", but that was changed to 102" a couple years ago.

    Other (non-designated) state highways used to have lower weight limits....18K on a single axle, 32K on a tandem, and 73,280 gross. That was done away with a couple years ago...so they are the same weights as Class 3 highways. 96" width was also changed to 102" a couple years ago. Essentially, non-designated state highways are no different than Class 3 highways.

    Local roads have fewer limitations than non-designated state highways, but the limits which DO exist are slightly stricter...as in 55' overall length for a tractor trailer, or 60' for doubles or other combination.


    Here's the link to the PDF again: http://www.crashdataservices.net/files/illinois_semi_truck_size_weight_restrictions.pdf

    Page 6 of the booklet (page 9 in the PDF) has the chart with the size/weight limits. It is a few years old, though, so not ENTIRELY accurate...however, the only changes that have been made are the elimination of the 96" width restriction in favor of 102" for the legal width on all roads in the state, and the weight limits were increased to match those of the interstate highways.
     
  6. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Did this ticket show up on your csa? I got the same ticket in Manhattan, IL this week, driving a 78' tractor trailer combination in a village with a 65' local ordinance (kingpin was set at 38'6" kcra). The officer assured me it was a "local ordinance" ticket & like a parking ticket, it would not be reported on any record as long as I paid on time (the ticket was ever-so-conveniently printed on a pre-addressed collection envelope).

    I was on US-highway 52 with lots of other truck traffic (admittedly most were day-cab) -- not some local road. And there were no signs at all indicating a restricted route. My 2012 Rand McNally trucker's atlas lists this route as being ok for staa trucks, but when I showed the officer she said I should just throw out my atlas because it wasnt any good?! As soon as she let me go, she whipped around a nailed a Swift truck heading the opposite way.
     
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  7. Driver61

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    I Recently received a citation in California for being 1 foot on the bridge law , does that go on my csa
     
  8. Driver61

    Driver61 Bobtail Member

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    I recently received a citation in California for the bridge law , was 1ft over, on inspection but does say level 1
    officer said no points, take that with a grain of salt, but does that go on my CSA
     
  9. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    You don't have a CSA score. Your company does. You have a PSP on which every inspection will be listed. If they gave you an inspection form and that citation is listed then it will be on your PSP. Not a real big deal unless you start racking up at lot of violations on DOT inspections.
     
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