Do you feel elogs should be mandatory or optional?

Wow who did you drive for. I have never head of that. I do hope you know as soon as you stop. It automatically goes to line 4 that's onduty not driving. You don't have to put that on drive because you go a half a mile to the door. I'm not sure you if were trained properly on E logs. I do know they are not all the same as well. Companies can program then the way they like. They will have to answer for that drivers non logged hours if they are ever audited and both can be given big fines. So its not in the best interest for company nor driver to unplug it.

 

Werner was the one with the sensitive e-logg. When I get to a shipper or receiver I go to line 1 but when the truck would move it would automatically go to line 4. The reason I would change it to line 3 is because the logs dept had said that since the truck moved it had to be logged as line 3. I would either try and correct it by saying I was on line 1 and it came back and said it detected movement and I couldn't use line 1 then I would change it to 3.

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Guess I should of known it was Werner.

 

With all due respect, your argument is flawed. Its not a matter of one equals the other. Just because I am capable of churning my own butter doesn't mean I'd want to. And if I don't want to churn my own butter, it doesn't mean I'm a dangerous farmer. Same applies to logs. It is entirely possible for one to be perfectly capable of doing paper logs and yet prefer not to.

Well for the record, I'm not arguing in favor of anything. I am not in favor of them. I'm not against them. As I said earlier, they're coming no matter what. I don't love or hate it, I just accept it for what it is.

My comments about looking forward to them being mandatory were only in response to all those who claim they'll leave the industry if that ever happens. If there was ever a statement that warrants the phrase 'princess foot stomp' this is it. I seem to recall lots of people claiming they'd move to Canada if Obama got elected way back when. Funny but I don't think the Canadian population grew all that much after the last big election.

I mean really, you wanna go if they make elogs mandatory? Then you should probably go anyway. Why wait for the law to force you out? If this law (should it become law) isn't the one that does it for you, there will surely be another that will. So why wait? Get out now, beat the traffic. This clearly isn't the industry for you so go already. Save us both the aggravation and get the eff out already. No one is going to miss you. No one.

 

My thoughts exactly!

 

Please explain to us poor folks what a "Real Driver" is. I've only been behind the wheel, since I was 18 years old. Which was 39 years ago. Most of it as an owner/operator and I'd like to know.
BTW, I fully support mandatory use by all trucks involved in interstate commerce. I support them in intrastate commerce, but that is a state issue, not federal.

 

Interstate commerce is their business. It's in the Constitution of the United States, Article I, Section 8, Clause 3.

 

Landstar has not been forced on to e-logs. It is a voluntary program, instituted by LS for drivers that want one. I don't have one, simply because there are no units that will hookup to my old mechanical motor, even though I would like one.

 

aaaaaaaaaaaahh yeah, I grew up and in upstate NY I'm familiar with it but thanks for the lesson anyway..

 

It is not going to be mandated anytime soon. I will be long retired by the time it gets out of court. Unless they pay for the thing I don't see it being mandated. It has already been PROVEN IT DOES NOT MAKE A DRIVER ANY SAFER NOR DOES IT ENFORCE COMPLIANCE!!!!!!!! I am afraid some might not be able to read or write so paper is just to hard and you are the ones caught violating the HOS regulations and getting this ball rolling so I will enlarge my prior statement just for you. It has already been PROVEN IT DOES NOT MAKE A DRIVER ANY SAFER NOR DOES IT ENFORCE COMPLIANCE!!!!!!! So now what are you going to argue as to why they are needed? Your number 1 and number 2 reason have been thrown out the ol barn window so now give me your number 3.