Do you feel elogs should be mandatory or optional?

Turns political again and some people may come up missing and printed on milk cartons, just a rumor in the staff section.

 

yes, thats what safety people and sycophant drivers agree upon

logic doesnt see it that way

 

You have completely missed the point of the post. It was a simply a comment on how often those who moan about wanting the gob'ment to stay the eff out of their bid'ness seem to change their tune a bit once they put some of their offspring in the ground due to the under regulated actions of others. That was the point of the post and nothing more.

But since you've turned that into a discussion of how trucking is regulated differently than other industries, I will say this. I was a professional pilot. If you think trucking is over regulated, you better not try to go fly planes for a living. The old adage about being careful what you wish for comes to mind if you're going to take up the charge for regulating trucking to the same extent as other transportation industries.

 

Not to mention that I know truck drivers who make more money than the only pilot I know. That is messed up as anything imo.

 

Why do you think I'm driving trucks instead of still flying planes?

 

Loaded up my family and my future son inlaw in out van in Columbus Ohio and drove to Grafton ND, only stopping for fuel and food. Took a 6 hour nap and went to work the next day and put on 700 miles without any problems.

But on the same note, A older gent and his wife were driving home to Winnepeg manitoba From Texas last summer. Well he was thinking about taking a break but decided to push on since he only had about and hour before being home. Failed to look at the stop sign and pulled out infront of my wife with my boy in the car.

 

Isnt it amazing how you can spend all weekend doing all sorts of things, and LEGALLY drive your truck after having no sleep

but if you are driving from Indianapolis to Dallas (900) and you take an 8hr nap, that is illegal and deemed unsafe

 

I understand what your saying. But you also have to understand there does have to be an HOS. If there was no HOS, every broker, Shipper, dispatcher in the country would think every load is a overnight run.

On the same note as this thread, EOBR's are not any safer then paper. Just more money out of our pocket.

 

My dad was an FAA investigator for 35 years, you can take that argument and toss it.

 

I'll hang on to it if its all the same to you. I know what it took earn my CDL and I know what it took to earn my commercial pilot cert. Worlds different in terms of regulation and oversight.

I know what it takes for any Tom Dick or Harry to buy a truck and get themselves legal to make money with it and I know it takes for any Tom Dick or Harry to buy an airplane and start hauling people or packages on demand with it for money legally. Worlds different in terms of regulation and oversight doesn't even begin to touch that one. You don't ever have to convince a DOT agent that your business model is not only going to be safe, but also profitable, and not just a little profitable, but profitable enough to make said DOT agent happy. The same cannot be said for the FAA.

You want an operators cert to go fly people or packages on demand? The FAA wants to see a complete business model and they want to see the airplane you plan to buy to do it with. And if they think the airplane you want to buy is too expensive and will cut into your profit too much, then its no certificate for you. Unless of course you buy the plane that they decide you should buy. Funny, but I don't ever recall any owner/ops on this forum talking about how the DOT wouldn't grant them operating authority if they bought a Peterbilt and would only give them authority if they bought an International or a Freightliner. The FAA does that all the time. I also don't recall any owner/ops talking about how the DOT told them they couldn't get their truck serviced by shop A who charges $X/hr and could only get their service done at shop B who charges $XXX/hr and if they didn't use shop B they'd lose their authority. The same cannot be said for the FAA. So yeah, I'll hang on to my argument thank you very much.