Do you guys do this? Insufficient load securement

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  1. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

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    OK, so my method of WLL, as per my chains and binders, has been correct then I guess?
    I can't believe that all the DOT inspections I have had while hauling overweight stuff, especially in Wa, have been passed due to good luck. Not saying I know everything, as I surely do not in any way, but it seems like the WLL and the breaking strength are causing some confusion (myself amongst the confused now!).
    So I have been doing it right then, going above and beyond the 50% of the load weight in securement then?
    This seems like a very good question for DieselBear and Scalemaster IMHO.:biggrin_25514:

    Martin
     
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  3. HISPEED428

    HISPEED428 Light Load Member

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    Canadian reg's are a bit different then,

    (1) The cargo securement system shall be capable of withstanding the forces that
    result if the vehicle is subjected to each of the following accelerations:
    (a) 0.8 g deceleration in a forward direction;
    (b) 0.5 g deceleration in a rearward direction;
    (c) 0.5 g acceleration in either sideways direction.
    (2) The cargo securement system shall provide a downward force equal to at least
    20 % of the weight of an article of cargo if the article is not fully contained within the
    structure of the vehicle.

    (3) The load on a component of a cargo securement system that reacts to a force
    referred to in subsection (1) or (2), shall not exceed the working load limit of the
    component.


    If I'm wrong I'm wrong not afraid to learn from somebody else. What I posted earlier is what I was taught. Would always err on the side of over securing a load tho.
     
  4. HISPEED428

    HISPEED428 Light Load Member

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    I don't believe so skateboardman. See page 93 of North American Cargo Securement Standards.
     
  5. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    yep , the posts above showed that.
     
  6. blade

    blade Heavy Load Member

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    Wow if Martin ain't using enough securement then I'm not even close and I need to go pull a reefer
     
  7. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

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    You and me both Brutha'!:biggrin_25523:

    Martin
     
  8. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    and all those 4'' straps just underneath, were going on next. :biggrin_2559:
     
  9. FwL

    FwL Medium Load Member

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    I'm just a new guy with a lot to learn, but none of what you said here means anything until there's an accident.

    That's what dictates proper securement.

    If you slam on the brakes at 60 mph on a 7% grade, is that load going to stay put?
     
  10. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    Well first off you probably shouldn't be going that fast down a 7% grade... Secondly if you're loaded at max gross you're most likely not going to be stopping all that fast, but if for some reason you do, your chains should hold if they are on there properly.
     
  11. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    you missed th entire point. all 3 loads were correct according to securement rules. point being , there is more than one way to skin a cat.

    and if you are on a 7 % grade , doing 60 mph, and slam on the brakes the 3 securements would hold. but you got more problms than that.


    only a knucklehead with a 60 foot beam weighing 35,000 would be going 60 mph down a 7 per cent grade and even have to slam on the brakes.

    read this thread again and learn something
     
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