Do you really need to pass?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by double yellow, Dec 4, 2016.

  1. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Your truck and their truck is not EXACTLY matched on flats, climbs & descents. Make your pass when your speeds are at greatest difference. Oh yeah, and EVERYBODY get in the middle lane because one time a car merged.
     
  4. AModelCat

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    I love it when some drivers try and pass on the 3 lane uphill here in town. Now every other vehicle is bottlenecked into the left lane while the idiot tries to pass. Then OMG wow they're both side by side at the traffic light at the top of the hill. Real big time saver there bud! **slow clap**
     
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  5. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    Pay me by the mile, and I'm not going to sit behind a slower truck.

    Pay me by the hour, and I won't worry about it.
     
  6. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    If the truck is ungoverned or set at 75 I don't see the issue here.
     
  7. Pete jockey

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    It's only an issue for the 58-62mph mega logjam, just something we all have to deal with.
     
  8. ncdriver1

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    You can see the camaro spin off behind and to the side of the truck off into a fence.
     
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  9. tinytim

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    Almost 2 and a half times the legal limit. I'm sure it ended up being very costly for him.
    http://www.wkbw.com/news/police-blotter/video-camaro-tries-to-pass-on-shoulder-causes-crash
     
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  10. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    No, the idiocy of blocking traffic happens at every speed. I see 70 mph rolling road blocks in Texas, when the speed limit is 75 or 80 mph. Couple that with some "professional" driver dawdling at 68 mph speeding up to block your pass at 70 to 72 mph. I keep speeding up until they hit their governor or cry Uncle, then come back over and maintain the new speed while the idiot paces me for a while and then I start easing it back to my cruise control speed and Lo and Behold they start falling back. It's either a competitive thing or they suffer from a severe form of the heartbreak of ARS (Anal Remora Syndrome).

    Early in this thread someone posted a comment that they didn't see anything wrong with taking five minutes to complete a pass. Several people thanked that post. Another posted that he doesn't see any reason why he should have to slow down to help another driver complete a pass. Both comments IMHO show a complete lack of awareness of what your number one job is on the road. YOUR JOB IS TO MAINTAIN SPACE AND FLOW OF TRAFFIC.

    Once you create a rolling roadblock by attempting a slow pass OR driving cluelessly and blocking someone's attempt to pass by not slowing or rising to the level of idiocy by speeding up, you are creating a highway speed traffic jam...

    ...and YOU are in the thick of it. Bumper to bumper vehicles all around YOU because you can't break suction and pull your head out of your ###? REALLY?

    When you get behind the wheel, do your ####ing job. Is your "job" to create hazards on the road and then stay as close as possible to the hazard? Create space at all times.
     
  11. moloko

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    Dude, if you actually read what I wrote carefully (which I doubt), you will see that I am slowing down and yielding to the person who wants to pass, by downshifting a gear, and hitting the jake brake to decelerate. Too often, I've seen near-fatality accidents because some impatient idiot behind me wants to pass on a double-solid line, on a winding road, maybe even in the fog. If it's safe for them to pass, I flash my lights to them and slow down in the manner I described. If it's not safe, I do what I can to keep them in their lane. There is nothing dangerous about this. Because it might not be my business if they crash in front of me, but they are putting my life at risk if they pass unsafely or illegally in a close proximity to me.

    And yeah, I do whatever I can to manipulate the driver behind me into following the law. These idiots who want to pass on double-solid lines and subject me to danger--they're going to be messed with. Although it's not messing with them in a dangerous way. It is more like taking steps to prevent them from engaging in something that is dangerous. After you've done about 500,000 safe miles in a tractor-trailer, you learn how drivers behave, and you learn little tricks to keep them in line and keep them doing what you want. It's no different than blocking off a lane when you're making a right-hand turn so these Class C drivers don't drive into the lane your trailer is swinging into.

    "Downshift and hit the jake." Can you elaborate on your problems with this? It's a pretty common method of slowing down without using the service brakes, driver. That results in a steady, predictable and deliberate deceleration. But I can tell you are very upset with all of this, so let me find the name and address and phone number, and social security number, of the dude who taught me how to drive. You can go take this up with him personally, at 4AM at his personal residence.
     
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