Do you run under your own authority and also cross over into Canada? If so.....

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by georgeandson, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. georgeandson

    georgeandson Heavy Load Member

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    If you drive your own truck and take freight into and out of Canada, what exactly do you need, in addition to what you have in the states, to run up to Canada????

    I considering making a bid on a lane going to SK and was just trying to find out more info before I do. What kind freight comes out of there? what kind of rates going south for vans? Any advice/info would be great. TIA!
     
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  3. ShortBusKid

    ShortBusKid Heavy Load Member

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    I'll be interested in responses. I came across an "occassional" opportunity to go to the Great White North as well and was just pondering this myself. I am just assuming that in addition to adding the provinces to your approtioned registration you must have to register with the Canadian Government. Don't forget insurance also - again not sure but I'd make sure you're covered.

    As far as rates, when I did freight sales for a carrier I worked for, we pretty much rated any load to SK and MB with deadhead back to the US. I'd just assume you're not gonna get reloaded up there and make your rate work to a point back in the US where you know you can get a load. We did haul some freight out of BC but it was still a hit and miss proposition.
     
  4. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Pretty sure that Winchester Magnum would know the answer to this. You might have to wait a bit for him to show up here, but he's run up to Alaska before, with some loads.
     
  5. terrylamar

    terrylamar Road Train Member

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    Hello! I have applied for my Own Authority and I need to know what to do to run loads into and out of Canada. Anyone?
     
  6. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    Wow, I just saw this today for the first time. I think some of the canadians here could give better advise, but you guys will either need to be registered for the provinces you wish to run or If you're not registered you can get temporary permits from whatever provinces you'll run. The temporary permits would get expensive real quick If you run up there much. You can also register to get PASS/PARS stickers, or If not, you can piggyback on with the canadian customs broker who has the load and use theirs.(I think that option may be ending soon though).

    Every province is part of IFTA, except the Yukon and NWT. If you are hauling from the USA to Alaska or vice versa, you will need a broker bond. I use summit out of whitehorse, $150.00 flat rate. The broker will fax this to the border so customs has it when you enter canada.

    Running through the yukon costs me several hundred dollars and is some magical formula that factors weight and distance, plus another flat rate of $60 for fuel bond. All payable at the watson lake coop or the coop in whitehorse (one or both will always be open).

    Alaska is also not part of IFTA. To run AK you have two options - 1, buy a temporary permit for $350 (tractor) and $10 (trailer) both of which are good for 30 days and unlimted miles....or, register your truck with the state and get an actual annual plate that is good for one year,for $330 (ish) If you go the anual plate route you will need to show a stamped copy of your 2290. Or it can be faxed up If doing this over the phone. Also, you can plate your trailer for $20 and it never expires.

    Im no expert by any stretch, and Im probably forgetting stuff here, so hopefully others more in the know will chime in.

    And lastly, you as a US trucker cannot pick up a load in canada and deliver it in canada.
     
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  7. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    If you have the permits and plates, etc. Is it a hassle going into Canada? I see a lot of solid paying loads that would pay well, even coming out MT. But when I started doing research I saw different customs type stuff that looked like you needed to have set-up.

    Just not one of those things you want to do, think you have all your ducks lined up and find out that is not the case at the boarder.

    Is it the same for CA companies coming into the US? Are they not allowed to PU and Delv in US. Wonder how the Mecican trucker thing is being set-up.
     
  8. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Cabotage Rules for Canadian-Based Drivers

    I can't see there being any difference in the rules for Mexican-based drivers. And while I don't have a readily available link, the rules for U.S.-based drivers in Canada are essentially the same.
     
  9. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    The plates/permits/registraron stuff doesnt get checked by customs, so the delays are long lines basicaly. You can register with the canadian government ( Id like to say the transportation ministry) to get the PARS stickers which is esentially a measure created to be pre aproved before you arrive at the border, and thus sail thru customs when you get there. Without PARS registration you could piggyback onto the brokers PARS up to 5 times a year but Ive heard that will end.

    As for canadian trucks coming here, there may be some idiocincracies, but quité similar I do believe. We need some canuks in this thread. Mexicans - I havent the slightest clue, other than you and I will be paying for their EOBRs.
     
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  10. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    Bill I almost forgot the most important document of all- Everyone needs a passport.
     
  11. terrylamar

    terrylamar Road Train Member

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    I think, you have to be registered now and have your own numbers. I think this changed about a year plus ago.

    When I was leased onto ATS, I never had to do this. If empty and deadheading to Alaska from one of the States, I just told them what I was doing.

    Loaded, coming from Alaska back to the lower 48 I had to fill out a United States--Canada Transit Manifest. I had them in my possession, but any border crossing will have them. It didn't cost anything.

    For your yearly plate, you can stop in Tok, AK, at the DMV or whatever Alaska calls it, and pick one up. It cost $360.00, only $10.00 more for the full year!

    Nor am I :), that's why I am asking questions. I've crossed into Canada too many times to count, just not under my own authority.

     
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