Docking during 10 hour

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Newguyagain, Aug 10, 2021.

  1. Newguyagain

    Newguyagain Bobtail Member

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    If you have arrived at a consignee and went into sleeper berth and 4 hours later they come tell you they can get you unloaded can you use personal conveyance to move to the dock and then back to your parking spot to continue your 10 hours? Keeping in mind the ELD will put you in driving status as soon as your wheels turn.
     
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  3. bavarian

    bavarian Medium Load Member

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    Your ELD shoud not change the status with less than 5 mph.
     
  4. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Heavy Load Member

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    You can do the 4 mph creep, but nowadays I’d just go on duty/not driving (yard move) and do a split sleeper, you only need to do an additional 7 hours in sleeper after you’re done to reset, and you’re not taking a chance on a DOT audit.
     
  5. Truckermania

    Truckermania Road Train Member

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    Not all ED'S are set to go to drive at 5 mph. That is the max allowed. They can be set at 5 mph, 4 mph, 3 mph, 2 mph, 1 mph, or to go to drive if you move at all. To answer the OP's question, no you cannot legally do what you are asking.
     
  6. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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  7. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Follow your carrier's rules when it comes to this subject! As discussed in another thread with a similar topic. You can legally move a vehicle on private property as long as you like. You MUST however be in 100% compliance with part 395 when you place that vehicle back on the road. This is what you would face.

    To legally operate a CMV on a public road you must have clock left. 11-14-60/70! If not and you have been directed to leave you must leave and get to the closest place to park safely to take that 10.

    I used to yank reefers and this was the bane of my existence. These shippers and receivers don't give a dang about the HOS and then they expect you to leave when finished. It still makes me angry at the FMCSA for not fixing this.
     
  8. Team818

    Team818 Medium Load Member

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    Some megas have the air knobs, you push those in and move you are on the drive line. oops. Doesn't matter how slow you go. At the shop for a oil change, with these settings, once you log back into your eld it will show drive time you need to deny. So I like my simple 12 driving which is now on duty out of 14 total on duty hours per day, the rest, like this move is considered on duty. You can be on duty for 84 hours instead of 70 in a after 7 days, you take a 34, or more if needed. You are either on or off duty. Trailer empty? you can be off duty and drive to a truck stop. Anyways. I go into that in another thread. Take care. Have a good day. It will probably never happen, but I would like to see it.
     
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  9. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Do not follow this advice as too many carriers don't care about your driving record, and being legal!
    Any time at the controls of a CMV must be drive time. You can use yard move and most likely not get in trouble, but all work for a motor carrier must be on duty (or driving).
    Think of it this way. How is working (pulling in a dock) personal use? Why would you expect a personal use guidance that allows one to work.

    Carriers can limit PC, but they cannot expand it!

    From the guidance:
    The following are examples of uses of a CMV that would not qualify as personal conveyance and therefore be required to be recorded as driver time:
    1. The movement of a CMV in order to enhance the operational readiness of a motor carrier.
    3. Continuation of a CMV trip in interstate commerce in order to fulfill a business purpose, including bobtailing or operating with an empty trailer in order to retrieve another load or repositioning a CMV (tractor or trailer) at the direction of the motor carrier.

    Now, can anyone explain how moving to a dock is NOT repositioning a trailer at the direction of the motor carrier?
     
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    Speed_Drums Heavy Load Member

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    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    So glad im on paper..... and I don't bump docks.
     
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