Does 20 hours off duty = two ten hour breaks?

The problem is they have always been interpreted this way. If in 3 places it is explicit that sleeper berth is the same as off duty, why would you think it doesn't mean the same thing in the 4th place?

 

Counting to Five Is Harder Than You Think

 

Turning that around... If they are explicit in 3 places, why would they not be in the 4th? Why wouldn't they have been explicit there too?

 

In actuality it is not explicit at all, that I why they are both mentioned, even as a "combination of" in other words two distinct entities, but then only one of those disctinct entities is mentioned in another place.

Why would we automatically assume that in that instance they are the same and not distinct?

Again, ambiguity.

I am not saying you guys are wrong, I am saying the interpretation is left up to the DOT officers and despite what you or I log and what regulations we cite, they are citing the Same regs and it may not be what we are doing.

Personally I think in intentional to give them latitude and leeway.

 

Lol.
That would be something to genuinely see.
This here is......... roosters trying to take over the henhouse. Who can squak loudest?

 

I'm sorry but 395.8 paragraph h 2 describes sleeper berth as "off duty, in the sleeper". I think you have chosen the wrong hill to defend your flag.

 

Off-Duty Time
“Off-duty time” is not specifically defined in the regulations. In effect, it is any time that is not “driving time,” “on-duty time,” or “sleeper berth” as defined in § 395.2.

 

Look at 395.8 paragraph h, subparagraph 2.

 

Right, because YOUR "headquarters" are in California. Regardless of where the corporate office is, you log out of the terminal you work out of.

There is an old saying, "That guy is too dumb to know, and too proud to ask!" Seems to me, that applies to anybody who is afraid to ask a question, for fear of being laughed at.
To most of us, the OP asked a "dumb" question. But he was intelligent enough to actually ask for help in something he didn't understand.

Good job! Communication is the key to performing your job well, rather than just squeeking by. Something else to live by in this job. Don't make promises you can't keep. If you have doubts that you can make that appointment on time, say so.
I think the Knight manual pretty much said it best. "Under promise, and over perform."
(I almost hate myself for actually complimenting Knight for anything.)

Exactly.

SHUT UP, STUPID!

'cause ain't nobody loves to argufy more than truckers!

 

I have... Again, I am not saying you are wrong, but I am showing you another definition from the FMCSA that defines off duty as not sleeper berth.

You are arguing that your definition is correct, by the regs, I will concede that, but that doesn't negate the definition I posted also from the same source.

Once again, my point is ambiguity.