Does an EX Felon have a chance?

mannmk7 · Jul 18, 2008

Wooly Rhino said: ↑

Thanks for all the encouragement It really helps. The case has lots of political stuff in it. I was the 1996 and 1998 Republican Nominee for US Congress, Missouri Sixth District. The Democrats (I do not change my beliefs but the parties do) ask me to run as a Democrat in 2004. When I was lead off to prison, three Television Crews were there to film the event. A little word of advice, if you ever go to prison, try to sneak in. You dont want to be famous in prison.

Missouri law ends Child Support different ways. Number 1, child dies. Number 2, Child gets married. Number 3, Child enters Active duty in the Military. Number 4 child becomes self supporting and moves out. Number 5 Child turns 18 unless child is going to school. If he or she goes on to College they must enroll for and complete 12 hours per semester.

My argument was my son had entered Active Duty by joining the National Guard and going to Basic Training. At the time the military gave you different color of ids. His was GREEN which is for ACTIVE duty. As a Veteran (Vietnam ERA not Vietnam), I can garantee you that Basic Training is Active duty. It is possible to join the National Guard and never go to Basic. You can actually retire from the Guard with no ACTIVE Duty. For example, you can be hired to look after the Armory. They do this for police officers in small towns. The Judge didnt care. He said that National Guard is not Military, just a "part-time job." I then went on to the part about him going to college. I said your honor, he enrolled in 13 hours but never went to class. He did not complete the 12 hours required. So even by that standard he should have been emancipated on his 18th birthday which was three days before he went to Basic Training. I knew all this because he was living with me at the time.

Now, this is where I made my mistake. The judge looked at me and said "Mr. Bailey, I do not know why you are defying me." I said,"Your honor, if you are asking me why I am defying you, it is because I have a low torenance for stupidity." Not my best moment.

He order the sheriff to handcuff me and take me to the Department of Corrections for the next four years. The Sheriff said he would take me away but would not handcuff me because he felt I was correct.

What did I learn? I can make a knife out of just about anything and I avoid Saline County, Missouri. Thanks again for the responses. Jeff
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We need to to know all the stupid ##$% we can the government does in the name of justice. Than you.

The 9th circuit court is great for making distructive decisions to our society, and our country, in the name of freedom and in the name of the consitution.

Judges gone wild!

By the way in Mexicfornia they have whats called "family court". It's a place where men go to get the shaft. There's little justice there if any. Men rearly if ever get custody of the child.

Lil Blue Pony · Jul 18, 2008

Wooly Rhino said: ↑

I have a Felony. My crime CHILD SUPPORT. I failed to pay child support after the State of Missouri Division of Child Support notified me I was done paying. Silly me, I believed them. He was 18 and in Basic Training. The Judge ruled the National Guard is not Military Service. I found myself paying child support while he was in Iraq. Bottom line case is on appeal even though I have complete my prison time (yes girls some of us do go to prison for this) and my parole time. 4 years total. Now, I cant get anyone to give me a shot. TransAm was the latest to turn me down.
Should I resign myself to finding a different career? Should I buy my own truck? Should I become a Gigalo? Any advice is appreciated.
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You are not the first guy I have known in the same scenerio.......as a matter of fact I got a wrong number yesterday and somehow we go to talking...I had recognized his name from HS and well he has been down the same road and is with a local co but they are not runing him enough and they rates are cheep hence a lower pay check.
I talked to him about some local co's that might be good potentials....so that might be an option there for you as the bigger co's will do thoese background checks (so will the small ones prob. ) but with the smaller ones esp if you have a local connection you might stand a better chance of getting out on the road. Good Luck

Wooly Rhino · Nov 5, 2008

Ladies and Gentlemen,
Finally some good news to share. I went on Craigslist. I found a job, not a good one but a job. It was working as a driver and ground man for a tree company. They would cut down trees and I would drag branches to the truck. There I operated a grappler to load them in the dump bed. When the truck was full, I drove to the local dump and did my dumping. This was dirty hard work but it was driving and the people who I enterviewed with figured if I would do that I would do anything. I also got in much better shape lossing 35 pounds of soft fat. And now the Good Part. I start driving doubles tomorrow for Fedex. Thank you all for you encouragement. I will be seeing you on the road.

Lilbit · Nov 5, 2008

Glad to see you stuck with it and got things going! Keep us posted as to how things go with FedEx.

NealinNevada · Nov 5, 2008

Wooly Rhino said: ↑

Ladies and Gentlemen,
Finally some good news to share. I went on Craigslist. I found a job, not a good one but a job. It was working as a driver and ground man for a tree company. They would cut down trees and I would drag branches to the truck. There I operated a grappler to load them in the dump bed. When the truck was full, I drove to the local dump and did my dumping. This was dirty hard work but it was driving and the people who I enterviewed with figured if I would do that I would do anything. I also got in much better shape lossing 35 pounds of soft fat. And now the Good Part. I start driving doubles tomorrow for Fedex. Thank you all for you encouragement. I will be seeing you on the road.
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What a country ...and my hat is off to you!

Peanut Butter · Nov 5, 2008

The problem with child support is that the person receiving it can do with it what they want,, it does not have to go to pay for the childs clothes or food , nor schooling,, it can be used for drugs, alcohol or anything else the receiver of child support wants to use it for,, even give to relatives to go to bars and get drunk on,, does this sound fair?? not to me it doesnt but the states tell you its none of your business what its used for you just pay it or else.. fine thing to take a drivers license and end a career over and make a felony out of,, once again the government sucks.

Wooly Rhino · Nov 6, 2008

WELL, I spoke too soon. My good news is no longer so good. Fedex called me and told me that I have failed my background check. Turns out I have a Felony. What a shock. I had put that on my application. I had told that to the contractor. I had told that to the interviewer. I had told that to the person who was calling me with the bad news. I am now sitting here, four hours now, waiting to be called back by someone who is going to explain to me that it is company policy or some such BS. The good news is that I did have time to train my replacemant on my old job. While it is true that what doesnt kill you makes you stronger, it does hurt.

bangngears · Nov 18, 2008

Wooly Rhino said: ↑

Thanks for all the encouragement It really helps. The case has lots of political stuff in it. I was the 1996 and 1998 Republican Nominee for US Congress, Missouri Sixth District. The Democrats (I do not change my beliefs but the parties do) ask me to run as a Democrat in 2004. When I was lead off to prison, three Television Crews were there to film the event. A little word of advice, if you ever go to prison, try to sneak in. You dont want to be famous in prison.

Missouri law ends Child Support different ways. Number 1, child dies. Number 2, Child gets married. Number 3, Child enters Active duty in the Military. Number 4 child becomes self supporting and moves out. Number 5 Child turns 18 unless child is going to school. If he or she goes on to College they must enroll for and complete 12 hours per semester.

My argument was my son had entered Active Duty by joining the National Guard and going to Basic Training. At the time the military gave you different color of ids. His was GREEN which is for ACTIVE duty. As a Veteran (Vietnam ERA not Vietnam), I can garantee you that Basic Training is Active duty. It is possible to join the National Guard and never go to Basic. You can actually retire from the Guard with no ACTIVE Duty. For example, you can be hired to look after the Armory. They do this for police officers in small towns. The Judge didnt care. He said that National Guard is not Military, just a "part-time job." I then went on to the part about him going to college. I said your honor, he enrolled in 13 hours but never went to class. He did not complete the 12 hours required. So even by that standard he should have been emancipated on his 18th birthday which was three days before he went to Basic Training. I knew all this because he was living with me at the time.

Now, this is where I made my mistake. The judge looked at me and said "Mr. Bailey, I do not know why you are defying me." I said,"Your honor, if you are asking me why I am defying you, it is because I have a low torenance for stupidity." Not my best moment.

He order the sheriff to handcuff me and take me to the Department of Corrections for the next four years. The Sheriff said he would take me away but would not handcuff me because he felt I was correct.

What did I learn? I can make a knife out of just about anything and I avoid Saline County, Missouri. Thanks again for the responses. Jeff
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Wow i have been up and down with my child support over the years and it is tough. You must have not had a very good laywer because the military should not even be a factor since the child was 18, not in school. hmm why go beyond that. Wow i really feel for you and i hope everything works out and after reading your post i am soooo glad my support is done!

Wooly Rhino · Nov 20, 2008

Now, I do have good news again. Fedex has agreed to hire me after all. What happens to felons is that they are rejected by most companies if that felony is less then 10 years old. Fedex allowed me to appeal the call to upper managment. At that point someone with the abilty to actually make the call made the right call. So, Hi HO HI HO its off to work I go.

Lilbit · Nov 20, 2008

Wooly Rhino said: ↑

Now, I do have good news again. Fedex has agreed to hire me after all. What happens to felons is that they are rejected by most companies if that felony is less then 10 years old. Fedex allowed me to appeal the call to upper managment. At that point someone with the abilty to actually make the call made the right call. So, Hi HO HI HO its off to work I go.
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