Do you all realize that you don't need to accept whatever unfairness or illegality is handed your way by your company, enforcement or anyone else?
It kind of amazes me the number of posts that I see on these boards from people who just blindly accept things that are wrong and illegal. I hear about companies not paying as contracted, I hear of people getting tickets they did not deserve, I hear of people being told to run illegal or lose their jobs, I hear people being canned by companies for reasons that are contrary to law.
Don't just lie down and take it. Fight back people! I know what some of you will say: "If I turn them in, they'll fire me." Hey kids, that's the best thing that can hapen to you, because then they will end up working for you. There are whistle blower laws out there for a reason. USE THEM!
In the case of enforcement issues, study the applicable law a little. You have rights under the US Constitution and under whatever State's Constitution you're operating in. Bear in mind that State Constitutions can not grant you LESS rights than the US Constituion, but thet can grant you MORE and almost all do. A couple of the state's that I hear the most complaints about (PA, MD, NY, NJ) just also happen to be some of the states that grant a lot more rights than the Feds do.
Don't let them push you around
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by tomhorn, Aug 19, 2007.
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Might I politely point out that at this time you are still in the student phase and your opinions and comments may (and probably will) undergo substantial changes when you find yourself out on the road and actually working in this careeer field. Most potential whistle blowers do not have the appropriate documentation to substantiate their claims, nor doo they have the financial resources to hold on the length of time it takes to pursue such a case. And in most cases, there is no monetary pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, merely reinstatement into the same job at which they were working to begin with, and some lawyer fees to pay off.
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I think you have to be careful here. I would choose my battles carefully when it comes to whistle-blowing. You could find the result to be worse than the initial unfair restriction. You don't want to win the battle but lose the war...

I'm not a trucker, and reading the boards I see lots of what I consider unfair practices by some companies. But I also see some very intelligent and savvy drivers posting here, and trust their judgement in what is best pursued and what is best simply leaving behind and seeking employment elsewhere.
Don't be discouraged, tomhorn, but make sure you keep your eyes open.
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My husband and I worked for 3 different companies over the years who wound up owing us money.
Unfortunately there is NO RECOURSE other than small claims court to get that money owed to you. The labor board and other government agencies have no jurisdiction over wages owed to you.
I tried to get what was owed to us, but unfortunately nothing I did work out. One employer filed for bankruptcy shortly after we quit. One was for $88 in expenses, and while in theory I would fight on principle, being gone from home all the time does not work in your favor. Not time to do anything.
With the third one, we were left to broke to do anything. We tried to quit, put our notice in, but didn't get anywhere near home. By the time we quit, we had 50 bucks to our name. We were lucky to get out with that much. -
I have seen what they do to wistle blowers and trouble makers.
They send you somewhere thats about 200 miles from New York
city. You spend the rest of your time there going to NY and back.
Back and forth. All very legal. Once every few days you will feel blessed
to go to D.C in the daytime. Better off putting your notice in before
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Well, perhaps instead of trucking I should start an advocacy group to address trucker grievances. I do understand that battles need to be chosen and that sometimes winning has a high price, even so high it's not worth it. The thing is this: I am looking inot this career and all I hear is bad. I kind of feel like someone needs to blow the lid off of this thing. These trucking company guys are making a killing. In my former life as a wealthy businessman I new a couple of guys that owned not so big trucking companies (under 100 trucks). one had his own jet and another had a 140'yacht complete with crew. You know the meat packing business and the sweat shops got away with stuff until someone blew the lid off of it. I, as a member of the general public had no idea that truckers were so mistreated and cheated. I always thought it was agreat career and assumed, since the owners are handsomely rewarded that so are their employees. Perhaps I'm naive and an idealist here, but I would like to see some justice here.
I'm also afraid that some of you have taken offense to my post. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to criticize you for being taken advantage of, but suggesting that some solutions be sought. Perhaps that wold be best done by banding together for some change.
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I would also point out the most recent Congressional hearing involving whistle blowers.
Dealing with a female who was found responsible for her own misery, by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Why? Because she continued to work (for 15 years) at the same company. For less pay than her male counterparts. She did file more complaints during this period.
It's an interesting reality check, if you can get a transcript from C-Span. So much so, Congress is checking into changing the laws once again, to overturn the Supreme Courts decision, and prevent future "injustices".
So much for whistle blower protection.
So much for a Court of last resort.
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Any company that wants you to do something illegally, is simply the lowest company on the scum list.
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I think you are misinterpreting the available data. While there are plenty of stories here of things that have gone wrong for people, those are the more interesting stories. You find very little of the "I picked up and delivered the load on time, and got paid for the load the follwing Friday as planned" variety, because there is little reason to tell those stories. For every load I have where something fascinating goes on and its worth mentioning here, I do many loads and miles where nothing happens more than the mileage markers going by.
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WOW! I sure have created lots of activity here.
Please let me be real clear about something, though. I am really enjoying these forums and this career is something that I've always had a fascination with and I am not being critical of any of you. I appreciate all of your input and this post was intended to be sypathetic toward your plight.
I guess it is true that what we see here is just the complaints and that they are probably not the norm. I was just hoping to address some of the complaints.
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