DOT and the State Boys have gone Mad!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by 1989 Pete, Mar 24, 2009.

  1. 2hellandback

    2hellandback Heavy Load Member

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  3. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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  4. panhandlepat

    panhandlepat Road Train Member

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    se' habla espanole'?? (spelling is WRONG LOL)
     
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  5. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Whoa!! Attitude works both ways.:biggrin_25525:

    Sir, my husband could have come home in a box when he served our county, too. Its a fact in the business. But honestly, I've ridden with him, several thousand miles over the last 3 months, and its not him, nor the truck that I worry about. Its the 4 wheelers that jump in front of him in a construction zone that are trying to jockey closer to an off ramp by driving in a lane that is narrowing to close in a few hundred feet while he's trying to maintain a safe distance from the traffic in front of him. Or how about grandma and grandpa on their afternoon drive that pull out of the gas station crossing a 4 lane to get right in front of my husband while he's going down a hill.

    I fail to see where an annual inspection sticker put anyone's life in danger when they couldn't find anything wrong with the truck. Anyone else see the irony in that??? BTW it was expired three days.

    You completely circumvented my question about the loaded truck being kicked off the property after being held up long enough to run him out of hours? No way to be legal. Stay there and get removed by law enforcement, or leave and risk law enforcement ticketing you for being out of hours! What do you suggest he do? I was there, I know that this really happened. Oh, and the town that we were loading in, didn't have a truck stop for about 50 miles, so add that into the equation.

    I believe that we will have to agree to disagree here on the black and white, and gray thing. Because yes, my husband is human, and he makes mistakes, but also puts SAFETY of his equipment, the surrounding public and himself first. Which would be why they couldn't find anything wrong with the truck and its a 2001. And honestly, you cannot say that a warning wouldn't have sufficed to remedy the problem.

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  6. 2hellandback

    2hellandback Heavy Load Member

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    What your going to have to accept is as long as your in trucking we are going to have to deal with pricks.And its bad enough we have to deal with them on the road and now we have to deal with them on a trucking forum
     
  7. Red Fox

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    You reading your own posts? I agree with DB - and I'm GLAD he's made my life safer.
    As for the HOS problem, I also see something there that simply has to be overlooked when a driver is forced to move; and we all know you can't usually park on the street outside of the shipper, if you want to keep your load and your life.
     
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  8. psanderson

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    FOOD FOR THOUGHT

    Just so everyone is aware to what Dieselbear was referring from post #67; all enforcement officers have what is known as discretionary power. At an officers discretion, he can issues a summons/citation, or he can treat you like a dog & tell you if he/she ever catches you again he'll throw the book at you. The clue is how you're being treated and how you treat them.

    If you treat an officer like a dog he/she will do the same. It's called human nature. Everyone, officers included, have 206 bones in their anatomy.......well, I'm better than most because I only have 205.......I lost one when I ejected over the South China Sea & the canopy didn't blow, then I went through the canopy & lost part of my thumb (I had about 4,000 hours feet dry over the top of that little fiasco). If you treat them like dirt, the discretionary power will treat you like dirt.

    If you maintain your vehicle you stand a better chance of receiving a non out of service writeup because of the officers discretion. If you cop an attitude, guess what. If you violate an O/O/S order, guess what.

    If you're speeding at 5 MPH over, the officer at his/her discretion can do either. But 10 over.....well, you guess

    Because of the human nature factor during discretionary power activities if you call him/her a prick and live in a certain state; guess what, you prick. And if you skipped school on the day they taught spelling, guess what.
     
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  9. psanderson

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    No, I conveniently chose to ignore it. That's not an enforcement officers problem, that's the drivers and the carriers problem unless you take the responsibility to complain to the enforcement people such as my former employer. I have been on shipper/receiver/consignor/consignee property many times correcting problems such as that after driver complaints. But the U.S.D.O.T. can't investigate what it doesn't know transpires.
     
  10. Winchester Magnum

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    Since it's been brought up, and you have been at these places - what is the drill when a shipper/reciever/coop tells a driver who's out of hours, to leave?
     
  11. psanderson

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    First, I would suggest that you leave & go to the nearest location for resting before they call the cops as that could get you into trouble for more than just an HOS violation & the carrier may lose the contract for that business. Next, call or email the FMCSA office in your home state. I believe the FMCSA website has numbers & contacts. But be prepared to wait as many times, depending on may things, it takes a while for a federal agent to get to the actual complaint (before I retired we were required to look into a complaint within 90-days & most of the time it took all of that before we could respond). The responce time may be longer now as I retired a few years ago.

    In addition, every state has compliance officers that are qualified by the USDOT/FMCSA to act on their behalf. Many times action can transpire more quickly by them. If you choose this option, I'd suggest you go to the state headquarters to issue the complaint.
     
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