DOT Backround Confused

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by NewToThis94703, Feb 1, 2020.

  1. NewToThis94703

    NewToThis94703 Bobtail Member

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    I’m confused I’m working for a company that will require me to get a CDL and they work with DOT. I’m doing the background check and I added a Staffing agency to my list of jobs worked with in the past 3 years. The investigator calls me and is telling me She can see when I worked their but “She can’t see the days I worked” does she need that info? Also she said she need some one to verify the job wasn’t subject to DOT testing. I was just a helper and my Mangers yeah All three of them don’t work for that company anymore.
     
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  3. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    I'm probably wrong. But most places can only verify that you worked there, from A start date to a finish date. (maybe that's what she can't see? what your specific start and end dates were).
    Any manager currently there, can tell an investigator that you were NOT a driver.
     
  4. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Go read ALL of §391 Subpart C I Linked to. It will take a few minutes to see that when a carrier is hiring a driver they are required to do a lot of background checks. In the end, the carrier interprets these regulations as they see them. If they ask for something you either comply with the request (if possible) or go find another place to work. My words may not be what you want to hear, but now you know where you stand during this process.
     
  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Your right, The thing though is the hiring carrier can and most will seek your OK to ask more detailed questions. Fail to give this OK your application will find the round file. This is especially important in the case of drug testing. I have said this on these boards for a while now. Do not hide behind privacy laws in this heavily regulated industry.
     
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  6. Ridgeline

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    You don't need specific dates, months are alright.

    What job do you do that you work with the "dot"?

    And why would you need a cdl?
     
  7. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    In this case he might. The OP has listed a temp agency. The investigation is being very strict on how they interpret Subsection C of part391. I don't agree with how they are doing it. The is why I hate those temp services. The OP is going to have to go back and get a printout of his jobs and the type work they did. They are also misreading those rules about DOT testing history.

    I bring this up on these boards all the time. Carrier safety and HR depts wet themselves sometimes when a FMCSA auditor IDs themselves. These people have started to err to the side of being over cautious today.
     
  8. lovesthedrive

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    The problem with a staffing agency is it is temporary work. Generally any pay you get isnt from the staffing place, yet it is from the compnies that you temped from. If your going to list them for employment you will need to list all the individual places that hired you.
     
  9. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    If he worked for a temp agency, then that temp agency was his employer. He was never an employee at any of the companies he was sent to by that agency. That he was employed by that agency from (date) to (date) should be all they need.
     
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  10. x1Heavy

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    I was a temp CDL driver for two seperate Employers. Those temp services are whom I listed as employers month and year to end date. I never list the actual assignments that I have worked such as a yard jockey herding 25 trailers in Jacksonville AR or probably crew bossing in auction at little rock, the employer does not care about those assignments just the employer in my case the temp company. Technically I am still on their books and I can call them up monday and be working again around trucks if I have a CDL. Its no problem. Just something to be considered for the future.
     
  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    In the end, it don't really matter. As I clearly stated I don't like what they are doing here. The problem is this investigation required by 391 subsection C it looks like they are being very strict in how they are reading it. I don't like it one bit. I know of several other situations where a temp company was listed as an employer. Every single time I kept hearing from the applicants this company is wanting more information. This is why I said I hate these temp companies. Now I am going back to what I stated in post #6. The FMCSA has got VERY tough with compliance of 391. They are not messing around one single bit. Almost every time a carrier gets smacked by a safety audit the auditors find something the carrier did wrong. Another problem is the results of audits can be used later in court. While this information is not generally released it is available upon an FOIA made to the FMCSA.

    On a side note if I am reading the OPs question right he is working with a company that has a DOT contract like a paving company. The OP words lead me to believe he is NOT actually working there but is in the early stages of doing so. I also wonder how he is in this process in what seems to be a CDL job and has no CDL. No mention of a school or anything else. Maybe the OP will fill in the blanks later.

    One more point about being "employed" by a temp agency. In most cases yes it is true you go through a hiring process. However, when you are out working for a client it is they that are supervising you and then fill out the time worked on either the daily or weekly ticket. This fact can cause a lot of confusion especially in a situation where the hiring process is so heavily regulated like this one is.
     
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