I have my class A and I work for a utility that regularly tows heavy equipment via crane trucks with air brakes etc., trucking is not my trade, it is just part of my job occasionally….
I am in Washington state and regularly drive trucks that are licensed to tow X amount of weight but are not always towing trailers. For example a 1.5 ton pickup that weighs 13,000 as it crosses the scales with no trailer or load in the back and similarly a tool truck loaded with tools and significantly less than 26,000 lbs which also never tows a trailer. There is confusion in my department that these trucks require a class B to drive even without a trailer and a class A to drive when towing equipment, which i completely understand that requirement but the class B has me confused. Some are saying that the DOT number on the door of the truck is what matters, not the weight of the truck. So the 1.5 ton pickup is licensed to tow however much per the DOT number and even when it is unloaded and not towing it is still required to go through the scales and for the driver to carry at least a class B and same with the tool truck. Is there any truth to this? A 13,000 lb pickup requires a class B and has to cross the scales?
DOT number vs actual weight confusion
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Whitemike, Dec 29, 2021.
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this was the weight on my bills the other day
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Here is a link to Washington's CDL flowchart, so you get it from the horse's mouth...
https://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/cdlrequired.html
Now that all stated, well no one can answer the question because you didn't give any weight ratings... You will need the weight ratings from the vehicles (including trailers) to answer the question.Dennixx Thanks this. -
Remember that pickup and tool truck, both under 26000# GVWR are both still commercial vehicles and require a medical certification for a non cdl operator.
Just having a dot number on the door does not require a CDL until you add a trailer over 10K... -
Bit off topic, but what pickup weighs 13,000 empty.
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GVWR and gross vehicle weight (GVW) are often thought to be the same, but they are not. A truck’s GVWR is the maximum weight rating from the manufacturer. GVW is the total weight of the truck and payload at a point in time.
Technically GVW does come into play IF you overloaded a truck above the limits, but that is unsafe and a violation in itself.
GVWR is what will typically get you, and yes registered weight being higher than 26,001 will invoke the need for a CDL.
So basically take the largest of the GVW, GVWR and registered weight and see if it crosses the threshold. If the GVW is lower than the GVWR the GVW is basically irrelevant due to the higher GVWR.
For combination vehicles the highest number from those three are added together.
Intrastate can be more complicated and may have higher limits before you need a CDL.Last edited: Jan 1, 2022
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Man ya'lls licenses in the US are confusing as hell.
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