Double Clutching advice no manual experience..

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by RedTheTrucker, Jul 7, 2015.

  1. Goldsux2015

    Goldsux2015 Light Load Member

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    They said the same thing about a spliter transmission in the 70s. Trust me, If Werners new trucks are automatic, all of them will follow suit. It's like the paper logs, everyone thought Werner was crazy going to a Qualcomm. As much fuel as an automatic saves, it would be foolish not to be compatible. Drivers shouldn't have to ask recruiters about transmissions. (I can drive both, but that is a problem with today's drivers.)
     
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  3. Goldsux2015

    Goldsux2015 Light Load Member

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    Live and learn. Make sure clutch out and clucth in. Dont push the clutch too far down. Freightliners 15mph 1+5=6th gear. Less bumping the tractor 45-55mph is 9th gear.
     
  4. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    I'm doing just fine with shifting except for the occasional off-day. :D

    Though this newer rig is trying my patience. The truck I used to drive didn't have anywhere near as sensitive a clutch and offered feedback when the pedal was pushed even if the clutch didn't engage. The new truck...well the clutch just slips in and out. Kinda feels like stepping on a plum.

    I was making the statement that going to a company just for the sake of not having to learn to shift is really really stupid.

    Doesn't matter what the company is or how much people like it.
     
  5. Goldsux2015

    Goldsux2015 Light Load Member

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    The cl
    The clutch is just too much trouble for a new driver. The industry is changing. Si any thoughts of driving manual for 20 years is a false dream.
     
  6. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    I find that extremely unfortunate. There are so many different things that can be done with a manual that can't be done with an automatic.

    When you teach people, and I really mean teach them, how to correctly drive a manual...

    -one less hand to text with
    -rivals the pulling capability, and can exceed an automatic
    -can be fixed and troubleshooted far easier than an automatic
    -can exceed the fuel mileage of an automatic

    A personal plus is that I'm forgetful and have been known to leave my lights on. I always try to park on an incline just in case... Stick it in 5th, turn the ignition key on, push the knobs and clutch so she rolls... After you've got a little momentum just pop the clutch and you've jump-started yourself.

    The switch is coming. I know it. But I can promise you that a good 50 years will pass before a standard is not only made obsolete, but is gone completely.
     
  7. RedTheTrucker

    RedTheTrucker Light Load Member

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    I went driving again for a lil bit with a different trainer (that knows how to teach) and i feel much more confident it was jus us two he gave me some real good advice first trainer was trying to tell us to switch gears by using the rpm 800 to downshift 1500 to upshift that is true but you can also use your speed to determine when to shift

    5mph you shift to 4th
    10 5th
    15 6th
    25 7th
    35 8th
    45 9th

    If im at 25 or about to be there shift into seventh if im at 25 and slowing down to 15 downshift thats it.. your still using the rpm to know if you could shift but your not relying on the rpm only also if i lose a gear or shift into a wrong gear i kud use my speed to get back in the right one

    For some reason it jus clicked to me im doing real good in upshifting and with this method my downshifting needs some work should be easier next time i seen him double down by being in 8th gear 35 mph and dropping speed to 15 mph 6th gear and light bulbs just started goin off in my head i think im getting the hang of it

    O yeah i didnt pay for school my wife is in the army they have a real good program for military spouses and they covered most of it maybe $700-$800 outta pocket when everything is said and done
     
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  8. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    That's about how it works for us all. The bulbs just start turning on.

    ...except me. I needed to run to the store. A few of my bulbs had blown out! :D
     
  9. Dumdriver

    Dumdriver Road Train Member

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    I dunno, when I'm REALLY loaded (like I am EVERY morning about 4:30), I'm pretty grateful for that clutch and the power (and more importantly the torque) that manual transmission provides
     
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  10. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    Oh. Something I wanted to point out... You made a statement that the clutch is obsolete and most drivers float.

    Yes, most drivers do float which requires little use of the clutch once in gear. But in order to idle in gear, put it in gear or to start your engine the clutch must be depressed.

    Even floating drivers have to use the clutch. So no, the clutch is not obsolete.
     
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  11. Dumdriver

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    I float- don't understand why anyone would double clutch to he honest- and you're absolutely correct, I also use the clutch…
     
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