Downgrades in the snow

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Kinny, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    It’s easier to teach everyone coming out of 3 weeks of school to never use the engine brake on snow than it is to teach them that they actually have to learn about their truck and how it reacts based on weight, snow conditions, temperature, etc. All of that comes from experience. Experience comes from scaring yourself once in a while. I’ve had the Jakes lock up coming down Lost Trail and Lolo before, but you have to be fast and not panic and get your foot in the throttle to stop the slide. And then get slowed back down.

    Telling someone “never” is the easy way out and people that live by that won’t learn what can actually be done.
     
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  3. Brettj3876

    Brettj3876 Road Train Member

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    you having an old man moment heavy? Even the 351 M code had 11:1 compression, right on the verge of requiring 93 or higher. Most of the 351s built had 8:1-9.5:1 from the factory.
     
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  4. Lepton1

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    Old Man Moment...

    I'm going to start using that.
     
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  5. x1Heavy

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    YEs sir, just a touch, I was reevaluating engines, three different ones. None of them reached that high in compresson on gasoline.

    I will discard that post and try again later tonight or tomorrow when there is a rest period put in.
     
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  6. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    You are absolutely correct. Schools, trainers, and trucking companies try to mitigate risk by teaching the least risk methods. The end result is that drivers learn to play the white keys on the piano.

    "Don't touch those black keys!"

    If you want to become a true professional, you need to learn to play the whole keyboard. That includes the black keys. The white keys only crowd can play Chopsticks to beat the band. The whole keyboard crowd can play Beethoven or Mozart.

    IN ORDER TO LEARN THE ENTIRE KEYBOARD YOU HAVE TO PRACTICE. That's the essence of learning ANY difficult skill set.
     
  7. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    Oh Lawdy, are there HOS rules for the forum? I'm busted.
     
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  8. x1Heavy

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    You know what? you might be onto something here in the South. THis week there has been a awful lot of fish cooking type meals be it grill, oven, in a pinch moment cooking orwhat have you. All of my local fishes palavar about some breeds being very able to hop into the net.
     
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  9. Lepton1

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    I grew up in the Seattle area. Right now is salmon season. Real fish that stands up and knocks out your taste buds without seasoning and other crap.
     
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  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Your goal isn't to keep pace with anyone else, but to not slide. Like most "impossible questions" the premise is wrong. Why do you have to keep going 40-55 mph on a snowy hill or in heavy rain? Nobody gives awards for fastest slide down a hill unless you are in The Olympics.
     
  11. Brettj3876

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    I believe Darwin hands out trophies and metals. No participation trophies either, only the special few get those......
     
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