Drive Axle Weight Ratings

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  1. End dump

    End dump Bobtail Member

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    Question for the group-

    I have a 2000 W900 with the AG100 suspension and 36k drive axles. Just bought a cutoff with the AG400 and 40k drives. Looking at swapping to the 40’s but I’m curious, what component on the axles actually determines the weight rating? Is the 40k axle tubes thicker walled? Are the spindles thicker? Is it the saddle over the axle that the airbags are mounted to? Just trying to figure out what they change to get to 40k ratings instead of 36k.
     
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  3. beastr123

    beastr123 Road Train Member

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    Tubes,wheel end bearings and possibly axles may be different. Tubes for sure.
    Center sections are normally the same internally although the bolt pattern may not.
     
  4. W923

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    What axles are they?….this would be important in determining what might be different.
    I know on Rockwell from that vintage generally speaking the housings don’t change external size until above 46k rating but the thickness changes. The wheel ends are mostly the same across all manufacturers (typically sae R style) and even at that will not be a failure point. The axle shafts are not really dependent on weight ratings although typically the higer the rating the larger they are. And the same goes for the center section.
    I wonder if they’re actually derated 40k rears possibly because of tire choices.
     
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    They are Eaton axles. The front is part number 319402 with a DS404 3.36 diff. The rear is part number 305830 with the RS404 diff.
    I’m trying to figure out exactly what the difference is between a 36k and 40k setup.
     
  6. W923

    W923 Road Train Member

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    I am pretty sure that information came from the tag on the removable 3rd member but there should be another tag on the housing itself that says what the beam is rated for.
     
  7. SmallPackage

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    image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg The axle housings themselves. Thickness and welds. That is what holds the weight. The axles and bearings have always been engineered overkill just like the 2” kingpin has been.
    Back in the day Rockwell and White’s in house version of Rockwell had two different visually obvious weight rated diffs. The standard 8 bolt still most common today and the other One had smaller hub with 12 axle end bolts. This was the higher rated of the two. Most heavy haul walking beam and spoke wheel hubs used these. They both used the same bearing and cup part numbers and axle diameter and splines.
     
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    Same thing with Rockwell steer axles. The hubs generally determined the rating. I have an FL and two Petes with the same model steer. The FL and one pete with 12k. They both have aluminum hubs. The older Pete has a 13.5k and has iron hubs. All the hubs use the same exact bearings and seals. The only difference is the hub material and the wheel studs are bolted in from behind on the aluminum hubs and pressed in on the iron ones.
     
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    Is what’s pictured, what you are gonna use? If so, what old fence line or pasture did you scrounge them from? There’s a lot of rust on everything. What happened to the inards?
     
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    Parts waiting to be shipped. They came out of trucks the family has owned over the years. The TXI orange hendrickson set came out of a ‘72 White 4000 from the old New Braunfels concrete plant before the sell out to Cemex. I sent the pigs up to Washington state were they went into a ‘60 Autocar. They are going up to Mass for an Autocar restoration up there. The other set is from a ‘82 White -Western star. The FL coe is sold and waiting to be picked up and hauled to Okie for a restoration.
     
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