I've had students that would blow your mind. It does get frustrating at times. But to the topic, no I don't go into the scale on a green unless I'm hazmat in one of the three states that want me in on a green. You can't give them every experience and besides, going through a scale isn't that difficult. Usually though we get pulled in willingly or not.
driver trainers, going into prepass scale with a green light
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by goblue, Feb 9, 2014.
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Not only no, but HELL no!
Nothing good happens in scales -- if you're lucky, nothing BAD will happen and you get to keep going, but you are slow-rolling past a bunch of TAX COLLECTORS, whose job is to look for things that will ring the cash register. Why give them any more opportunities than they already take? -
As I have previously stated the prepass is registered to you, not your trainee, so when training take the thing out then you dont have to worry about green or red lights and you can give them the full experience, live and in person.
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So if carrying hazmat and get a green light you still have to pull in in some states?
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I thought prepasses were registered to the truck and it would not matter who was driving
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Why not take your student into closed scale houses... those that can be driven through while closed?
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Some states require all HM loads to pass through the scale.
There are only a few, and they usually have a sign that states it as you are approaching. -
Prepass is still a bit of a mystery to me. As a company driver I get the one thats already in the truck, no idea if it registers me as the driver or not. I've had three different trucks since I started. My first was eventually sold, my second was not a condo, the third assigned was a condo so i could train in it. I get $1 deducted from each weekly paycheck to cover prepass/ezpass, no complaints from me on that...a bargain time saver for sure. How I get called in or passed I have no idea. There are some scales where I think everyone gets called in, those seem to be easy to figure out. Most of the time, however, I get the green and cruise on by and thats good for me as I see the others going in. So even if I did happen to go in on a green I wonder if the scale people would even no or care for that matter. No one on this thread so far has seemed to have the answer to that, i'm guessing it because they don't know either.
I think the best idea, like others have mentioned and moosetek13 writes below, is to try and train in a closed scale. Honestly really didn't think of that before, prolly cause I never had a reason to go into a closed scale. Sounds like a good plan and I intend to try it. Do I have to...no. Will I? I think it will depend upon the student and how they are adapting to otr.
There were a few posts where people thought it was a little crazy to run students through scales on purpose and or if it was even necessary since it is such an easy concept.
The students I've had so far have been really great guys but lack the otr experience. Their basic control of the truck seems to vary some, but thats easily worked out. Things that I perceive as easy however or important as a driver, often seem to be missed or overlooked by the new driver. For instance, when in a city environment, identifying a road or area where a truck should just not go. Reading ALL the signs too, etc, etc, etc.... So when it comes to scales, making sure they have an idea of how the place works is important to me. I really don't want the students who leave me truck to have as much information as the possibly can have, for sure one cannot cover every situation that they will encounter in the future. -
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How do the surge act on the scale that u have to individually weigh each axle? I bet it suxkz...
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