Drivers parked in the way

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by hvxjim, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. ronin

    ronin Road Train Member

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    You know.. I don't know you, and don't care to, based on what I've seen. I'm also done with explaining anything at all to some anonymous guy on the internet.

    Perhaps I should have shot the guy, or beaten him with a bat, instead of using non-lethal spray on him... maybe there'd be less confusion at that point.
     
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  3. ironpony

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    There ya go! That wasn't so hard was it?

    Now that we have that out of the way, if you so much as get in a shoving match over something like this - let alone mace a guy - plan on being arrested for assault.
     
  4. ronin

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    I explained that the police were called - in fact, I called them. As I explained before, a West Monroe (LA) PD officer showed up, along with a LA state trooper. They took my info, took statements from the old couple, and arrested the guy in the front truck.

    I was not arrested, charged or cited. It was explained that the younger driver had already shoved the older guy during their initial "discussion", I intervened, he threatened me, and I responded without violence. I certainly would have loved to beat the guy senseless, just for being stupid... but took the high road. I guess I'm maturing in my old age... since 20 years ago, the mace would have stayed in the truck/car.
     
  5. ironpony

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    The point is there are less sophisticated folks reading stuff like that - "oh, yeah, I'll just go mace the guy if he gives me a hard time." If they take that as something that they can do - then what? I posted earlier, a fella I know at my carrier got in a little pushing match over being blocked at a shipper. Arrested for assault - and plead guilty. Entry for anger problems and assault in his DAC file. Lease terminated and driving career over. This happened.
     
  6. ronin

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    I understand those things happened, and another reason I haven't been in an actual fight (except in a ring) in over 20 years. I used to scrap at the drop of a hat, along with half the military, I think. Plenty of times I should have or could have been arrested, but I ducked out.

    A lot of guys talk major smack, especially on the CB or at the truckstop, but few would ever take a swing if given the chance.
     
  7. Injun

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    Oh, puh-LEASE!!!

    You're not the only person here who has been in law enforcement in one capacity or another. I must be one of the ignorant dolts looking for an enemy, too. Here's what I read....until you "clarified" it here: Some ijit was blocking an older couple. There were words exchanged and the kid blocking them was inside his truck when you took it upon yourself to intervene. You went over to his truck, escalated the situation and received a verbal threat. So, with deliberation and forethought, you returned to your truck to retrieve your "Mace" (which, by the way, hasn't been on the market in almost two decades) and walked back over to the offending putz. A few more words were exchanged and you hosed him down. Then you weasled out of a court appearance with your FOP card.

    Here's where my problem is: you removed yourself from the situation, yet, unable to withstand words, re-entered the situation with the intent of escalating it even further. You already knew this moron was a hothead and you were safely away from him, as were the two drivers of the other truck. But you returned. That simple act of returning to the situation (as a police officer, you should know this) was enough to set that kid off again. This is all basic police academy stuff. Which is why MPs have to go through the academy like everyone else. MPs cannot "lateral" into a civilian police department...because habits like this need to be trained out of them.

    There is no "us vs. them" here. You buggered up your first explanation and have been back-tracking since. You're just annoyed because a bunch of drivers with good reading comprehension skills called you on your line of BS and false bravado.

    (BTW: Some of us actually paid attention in LE academy.)
     
  8. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    Read below again...

    :biggrin_25514::biggrin_25514:Very well said!
     
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  9. ronin

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    I'm in south Texas, visiting my sister, so i'll make this short. With all of the alleged reading comprehension skills, you folks still haven't understood that the guy assaulted the old man, and jumped down out of his truck to fight me. I walked the 15 feet to my truck and got my spray instead of a club. I wasn't facing someone with access to the same tools i had without something in my hand, and i chose the less lethal.

    The officers never saw my military ID or FOP card.

    "Mace" is a generic term for pepper spray, CS, whatever.
     
  10. Injun

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    Seriously, dude? Quit trying to change your story.

    In no part of this did you say anyone had been shoved. In fact, you clearly stated the younger guy was inside his truck as words were being exchanged. When you walked up, he was "making his bed," which means you had to climb onto his truck to talk to him, making YOU the aggressor.

    When he expressed irritation with you, as well he should, (I know I don't like strange people climbing onto my truck, much less to yell at me for something) YOU went back to your truck....a safe distance away from the guy that YOU just riled up....and picked up a weapon. You then returned to his location and threatened him with it "if he didn't move."

    Afterward, you handed over your FOP card in order to weasle out of court. This is YOUR story, in YOUR words.




    My take on it? You're FOS and are not, nor have ever been a LEO in any capacity, you're just trying to impress people with BS. I further believe this is a made-up fairy tale.

    And not worth any more of my time.

    Ciao.
     
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  11. Les2

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    I have to agree with Injun on this. Either the story is BS or ronin has some sort of "hero complex" and no matter what he feels he did the correct thing. When in reality he made the situation worse and actually turned into the aggressor.

    Sounds like the cops took the wrong person to jail.
     
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