Driving over 11 hours?

5 pages of BS ... and not one person telling you to call into dispatch / safety in the morning and have them back up your logs so you fit within HOS. The human race is doomed ... not just "real" truck drivers who can trip plan, navigate without a gps, and talk to a moron behind a desk in a manner that will have your little problem fixed in 2 minutes.

 

Noone should have to tell him to call dispatch.Truck drivers should think for themselves but they don't know how or too lazy.

 

That's a bit misleading.

In order to understand the off duty deferral you need to understand the difference between daily limits and shift limits.

The off duty deferral does not allow you to drive more than 13 hours in a shift and it does not allow you to work more than 14 hours in a shift.

Though the day can start at anytime the carrier chooses let's say it starts at midnight. Now let's say you end a shift at 3 am, having driven the 3 hours between midnight and 3 am. Now you take 8 hours off duty and start a new shift at 11 am. That leaves you 13 hours in the day. If you work all 13 and combine that with the 3 worked between midnight and 3 am that will give you 16 hours on duty for the day even though you're within the normal shift limits. In that case you would need to use the deferral (day 1) and have at least 12 hours off duty the next day (day 2).

So while you can use the deferral to exceed daily limits you still cannot exceed the normal shift limits.

Not sure if that's what you meant but I read your post as saying you can exceed shift limits which isn't the case.

http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/Content/docType276/Production/Module_7.pdf

 

I skipped ahead as this thread is too long.

First, the purpose of the logs is to keep you the driver from being overworked. You therefore should never run out of hours. Never. If you do it is because you are working too hard. Working too hard in this industry makes you dangerous. 8 and a half hours is all you need to put in to run hard. The logs are your friend. People who run illegal bring the wages down for all of us.

The answer to call your dispatch and have them edit your logs is correct. What you do is tell them that the traffic in the small towns was extra heavy and you could not have foreseen that. Thus you had to extent your trip by 15 minutes. On a normal day you could have made the run with hours to spare. You can legally extend to your 14 hour dead line but not beyond it.

Again my main point is that if you ever violate your logs, you are working to hard. The object of driving a truck is to make money for yourself and your family. But the object of life is to enjoy yourself. After 8 hours look for a place for the night. Don't run up against the clock.

 

Morning awnrier then me,lol.I'm going to have to dissagree with you on stopping after 8 hrs.For some ppl can drive 10 hrs and not even brake a sweat.I use to drive at least 10 hrs a day and found a place to park before running out of hrs.You're an owner OP so you work smart not hard where as company drivers get paid by the mile so every mile matters to them.Then you get some company drivers that think the current HOS is way too much for them and always coming up with excuses why they can't drive or try to end their shift after 1 load even though they have like 5 hrs on the clock left.

 

To each their own.

I enjoy driving truck but the objective is to make money for the family and our future.

I don't enjoy sitting on my butt in a truck stop for hours a day.

I reset at home weekly. Spending only one third of that time working means less money for my family.

Working hard (if you can call it work) while away from home means early retirement and lots of family time.

Doing a 40 hour week away from home means late retirement and much wasted time.

Not everyone is the same.

 

When I was a trainer for Swift I had a trainee from Hell. He couldn't drive more than an hour without stopping for a bathroom break and talk to his fiancee or one of his girlfriends.

We finally got into team driving and it was more of the same, he couldn't drive more than 400 miles in a 10 hour shift. Then one day he bangs out 690 miles in a 62 mph truck! He had the mojo going and instead of paying attention to the Qualcomm #####ing that he was out of drive time he just turned down the volume and kept driving! He went THREE HOURS over his 14! I was so tired I never woke up and hadn't set my alarm because I had become used to his whiney little voice waking me up to announce he was tired.

We never heard one peep from Safety.

 

You do understand that the original log and the corrected log will both be in the system. The DOT can look at his GPS tracking and see he went another 30 miles past his 11 hours to a place where he can stop safely.

 

Can you imagine a farmer harvesting the crops in his field having to worry about going 15 minutes over some regulatory time restraint?

How about a lawyer working on a defense late into the night, a politician filibustering, a doctor performing a surgery, a pizza store owner baking his pizzas, a used car salesman closing a deal, etc.

You get my point.

 

They are not set to FMCSA rules and regulations... You hold the CLD class A and thus are set to go by the current rules in place.

So, let's say he goes 15 minutes over his 11 and is still driving... suddenly a car pulls out in front of him. It is the car's fault, but all fault's will be put back onto the CDL Holder, because if they had not been driving past their 11 hours, then the accident would not have taken place, since the truck would have not been there in that moment of time.

The CDL driver will be cited for going beyond his 11 hour drive time, and if any fatalities the CDL driver can be held liable in a civil court for wrongful death.

The rules are there. On Paper logs they could have "fudged", but with an ELD it is now recorded and easily pulled on the local ELD unit and at their home terminal computers. ELD's can be "corrected", but under current rules the "corrected" and "Original" logs are now on record for six months with their company.