Question to all the seasoned drivers, and newbies alike...
I have been reading posts from new drivers who have questions about whether or not they can get hired here or there with, for example, felonies, poor driving records, medical conditions etc.
I have been reading responses about how many drivers there are in line for such jobs with none of the above...
So I started wondering...what would the Ultimate Trucking school look like? Would there be government funding readliy available through unemployment insurance? Would the course be longer? Would there be a pre-screening process as to whether or not you are hirable (is that a word) in the industry? Would the course INCLUDE assertive driving techniques, winter skid control etc. Would the school be affiliated with companies that are hiring, and would be more interested in getting good, well trained students, rather than a high turnover of unprepared drivers? Would our roads be safer because of it? Or is this something already in place and drivers are just falling through the cracks....
Any thoughts? Just a Wednesday afternoon ponder.....
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Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by snowbunny, Mar 3, 2010.
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My personal opinion is Truck driving schools are in business to make money. They will tell you what you want to hear to put you in a class.
A great driving school will be up front with you and tell you if you have a shot of getting a good job or not. Most say they have job placement, but that doesn't mean you will have a job once you graduate. I believe Community Colleges, are the best bet, they dont promise job placement but usually are very well accredited.
With the economy the way it is, most decent companies have they're pick of good drivers. so if they are worth working for, they would probably take a driver with expirience over a Student, or new driver.
Again, this is just an opinionsnowbunny Thanks this. -
The Ideal Truck Driving School huh? Well, here's how I'd do it.
The school would be affiliated with a Community College, course lasting a minimum of 3 months (longer if needed). No dang "simulators", everything real world.... weather and all. After week 1, learning about log books and such, no 9 to 5; you'll be coming in at odd hours (including 3 or 4 am) just like real trucking. You will keep log books and 14 hour days.
Everything is hands-on and get dirty. You'll spend a week crawling under and over a truck until you know exactly how each system works; air, electrical, braking, power dividers, the whole thing and you will be doing this until you get it right. Learning road repairs too.
Now you'll go out in the yard. You'll back, turn and maneuver until I know you can do it without killing somebody. However long it takes is up to you.
Only after you can do all that do you get out on the road. Daylight, night runs, pretrips, post trips, every thing you will do when you're doing it for real.
Ah Hell, you know this would never happen. Too many whiners out there looking for "special treatment" because of their skin color, sex or other "special considerations".Adios amigo, snowbunny, Larryparker and 1 other person Thank this. -
All schools should have simulators . Don't send students with no experience out to play in traffic . Students need to learn how to react to situations they won't experience in regular school road time . Simulators will also weed out students that lack the aptitude to ever be a driver . No more schools taking thousands from a student that ends up being rejected at orientation because he can't pass the road test . -
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Thanks! Not planning on opening a driving school...lol Was just thinking there had to be some way to REALLY weed out the good from the bad. There must be a way that when you graduate from school, you are actually PREPARED for anything. And yes, obviously driving with a trainer would still be necessary, but when a driver gets in the truck with a trainer, they should not be learning to drive...they should already know that! It should be more about learning THAT companies policies, and possibe routes etc.
When My husband was a trainer, years ago, he he drivers get in the truck that didn't know how to shift....
I like your idea Rick, that no job, no payment...it would actually force the schools to not recruit just for the money...I would say it would have to be an open end contract, though...for example you find a job 1 year later, you still owe the school for training..or something like that..
And yes, the pass requirements should be VERY high...I kinda picture an instructer standing in front of a class saying "only about 2 of you are going to make it through..." lol
Just think it should be taken more seriously, thats all...
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Well most people who get into trucking already know how to drive something. A truck is just bigger. I said "most" because schools do not check that out. Had a girl in my class who could not drive a manual. She never did learn. I can tell you one thing, none of the truckers on this forum were born driving a truck. Just about anyone can drive a truck in a straight line. It's turning and backing that'll get ya. That can only be learned from experience. There is no way to teach someone how to drive a truck without having them drive a truck. The only thing schools could do differently is to let people stay if they feel they aren't ready.
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Well do they not ALL have trucks to practice in? Could they not set up different scenerios? I guess that is my whole point, though, vinsanity, let people drive one in a semi controlled but staged environment. Have the school at an old building that has doors to back into. Put big things in the way, like your backing in to the doors from the street in NY City..A place where drivers can practice until they are comfortable. Becuase that kind of "on the job training" with someone who is already scared to death and not comfortable backing means the guy next to him's truck is in danger...know what I mean?
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Its free for a start, 18 weeks long.
Drug tested third week, permit 4th week.
Been shown how to chain, strap down loads and adjust trailer brakes along with various other little gems which i haven't heard of other schools doing. Also get to work in the warehouse loading and unloading. All training trucks are 08 Freightliner triple axle day cabs.
I test on Tuesday and will then have 8 weeks of driving experience with the company drivers before i graduate, this equals about 10,000 miles for those who are willing to do it, this is the payback for the school being free along with some other minor warehouse duties.
Ex students drop by all the time and tell us what its like out there, they are fairly honest so nobody should still have the wool over their eyes.
I see a lot of positives in the approach the school takes, however negatives as well like large class size and some interesting personalities. My take is that someone with 10,000 miles experience is more hireable than someone with none, certainly hope that proves to be the case anywaysnowbunny Thanks this. -
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