DVIR question?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Chuggz, Mar 13, 2017.

  1. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Except for the above phase you are providing good information.

    The DVIR only has to be signed off before the equipment is put back in service. It may be that day, it may be months from now, but it is supposed to happen before that thing hits the road again.

    The reason the OP is having an issue with the situation is mechanics don't like to sign the DVIR. Some mechanics and companies do not even know that is the procedure. I have had many a mechanic argue with me and refuse to sign it. Basically the DVIR, puts the ball in their court and many don't like to take that responsibility. Many employers would rather not see the DVIR at all.

    DVIR is like the log. You write it up how you like and don't let no one else what to put on it ever. The mechanic doesn't like signing his name or taking responsibility and many don't; tough #### do your job. The boss man don't like the complaints; to bad. Don't let anybody BS you into you filling out the DVIR a certain way. A common happenstance is somebody telling a driver like the OP to only write it up once and take responsibility for their lack of work or maintenance. Another commonality is somebody telling the driver what is and what is not a DOT issue. So what? Still write it up, make the mechanic do his job and take responsibility.
     
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  3. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    And you are correct. That was generally bad info on my part. If the mechanic is so backed up, for example, that he cant get to the trailer "that day" to check it out, he cant make that determination. Therefore cant make a determination of its condition.

    In light of this scenario, I would assume (since I dont know for certain):
    The premise is still the same as "B" in my post. If it has not been checked & hasn't been determined to be safe or not, once you put it on that DVIR, you can not use that trailer until the mechanic has checked it & made a determination & checked one of the two boxes. Either its safe to use or its not. Until that determination has been made by a mechanic, you cant use that trailer.
    Would you say that is accurate?
     
  4. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    If mechanic says once then leave it at that and also tell your dispatcher.Next time dont take the same trailer if its not fixed the first time.They should have put and OOS on it but mechanics ignore reports drivers write up.You can also go directly to the head mechanic and tell him you wrote it up and why isn t it fixed. or red tagged.
     
  5. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Just the act of filling out a defect on DVIR does not preclude the use of the equipment. It is often stated that if you describe a defect on a DVIR, that equipment is immediately put out of service. The nature of the defect, is what determines wether the equipment is in violation or out of service. Not the complaints or writing on the DVIR.

    But, as a driver you may, and most often will, be found responsible for any defect found on DVIR for equipment that is in operation. Writing up an issue up on the DVIR does not exonerate the driver. Even the mechanic signing off on a DVIR does not relieve the driver of the responsibility. However, it does provide just cause for the DOT or lawyer to go after the company or mechanic.

    What I am saying, It is as always a cover your own ### situation trucking. The DVIR is just one tool a driver has to do just that.
     
  6. 1969pats

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  7. 1969pats

    1969pats Bobtail Member

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    Put it good
     
  8. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    I've been thru that song and dance I don't know how many times so I know the drill of what to do too well.
     
  9. sealevel

    sealevel Road Train Member

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    Holes in the frame? Just saying. Easy enough don't pull it. It's almost always no defects on the dvir. If there is a defect fix it. When it's fixed no need to have a mechanic sign off because you didn't oos it. It didn't happen. Just don't say anything. Fix it. Otherwise your inviting the boogeman in. Why anyone would willingly create a paper trail is mind boggling to me. It's simple. Either fix it or don't pull it. If you feel it could cost you your job then you need to work for a better company.
     
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