E-log vs time clock

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  1. J Man

    J Man Medium Load Member

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    Hey all. Was wondering about something.

    My employer pays us off of a time clock but we have ELD in the trucks. The issue is they never match. Lot of slip seating, yard work, shop time, while not logged into ELD. Today I have 12 hours before 70 on my time clock but ELD says 16 available. Problem, company expects us to go by what the ELD says but if I were in an accident or something they would pull the time clock too, right? It gets a lot worse. According to time clock I've worked a 15 hour day, and a 17 hour day, but by only using the ELD in the vehicle when it was actually rolling down the road everything looks fine, as far as employer cares, because ELD looks legal.
     
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  3. White Dog

    White Dog Road Train Member

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    Got no advice...just a comment: I would DEFINENTLY bring this concern to the COMPANIES attention; your "boss" sounds like an unconcerned butt-munch.
    It is the company (as well as you) that will get sued if there's an accident (especially with a fatality)...not your boss.
    Of course in a law suit, they will investigate EVERYTHING...so they WILL match eLog to time card.
    The company can TRY and make the "slip-seat" argument, but that will just give the Plaintiff's Council the right to pull every time card, and every eLog...and then they'll find that NOTHING matches---and that's a guaranteed win for them.

    When you bring this concern to them, they are probably going to 'feel' like you're just trying to get out of work---assure them you are not, you are just trying to cover everyones butt.
     
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  4. J Man

    J Man Medium Load Member

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    I tried bringing it up with head safety man, he came down hard on my boss, who then came down hard on me. Things changed for a week and right back to square one, only I'm not going to risk opening my mouth again...just quietly find another job. I haven't had a week in months that I've run legal. Money good, job not bad, but going to get bit in the ### and lose my license if I push it.

    I was pretty sure they'd pull time clocks. And if they did....whoa.
     
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  5. Longarm

    Longarm Road Train Member

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    If you're punching a clock then you better be showing line 4 on your log.

    I'd be looking for another gig personally.
     
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  6. J Man

    J Man Medium Load Member

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    Defiantly looking. It's local work, home every night, good pay. Dream job on paper. But it's mostly oilfield, and that means no rules enforcement and when DOT busts a driver, the driver is screwed but the company already has someone knocking on the door wanting your job before you've even got your stuff out of your truck.
     
  7. Alaska76

    Alaska76 Road Train Member

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    As long as you are on the clock you are on duty, if not driving.
     
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  8. nb629

    nb629 Light Load Member

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    When you get into a truck after you've been working edit your log back to show time on line 4 . If your able to. Most units let you edit everything but the drive line
     
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  9. nax

    nax Road Train Member

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    SIDENOTE:

    One of my O/O friend told me a few days ago that.....get this...

    If you are dispatched while at home (i.e. go get the truck and go)....the time between getting that dispatch, and driving your PERSONAL VEHICLE, and including all the pre-trip/fuel/paperwork etc....is considered ON-DUTY/NOT DRIVING.

    I was like "huh?"

    Basically, 14hr clock starts when you accept the dispatch, not when you open the door of the 18-wheeler.

    So, if you live more than 10 mins away from where you park the truck....u losing time off the 14hr clock already.
     
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  10. J Man

    J Man Medium Load Member

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    In my case I clock in, get all my oilfield gear sorted, wait on dispatch, get assigned a truck, pre trip, make any adjustments or repairs, then load and I'm off to the races. They want us logging in the EDL last so we aren't burning our 14 sitting in the yard. Often times there are other tasks like helping in the shop, errands in a non cdl vehicle, stuff like that. The difference between what the EDLs say and the time clock says can be anything from a few hours to an entire day or more depending on way work they gave us doing.
     
  11. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    Your buddy don't sound so smart. I get my dispatch for Monday on Friday. According to your buddy I'm on duty all weekend? I don't think so.
     
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