E-LOGS

Couple of things here. E-Logs and Eobr's are two different things. Eobr's record what the truck is doing, speed, breaking, etc. E-logs are recorded. by the driver. My next door neighbor drives for a company that went to E-logs about 9 months ago. One thing I have noticed is talking to drivers over coffee is no two are the same. My neighbor's truck doesn't start recording until he reaches 30 MPH. The E-log system is not controlled by his company. There is a line 5 for personal use.
Talking with a couple of drivers the other day over coffee. One driver's company starts recording as soon as the truck starts moving, the other doesn't start recording until he reaches 25 MPH. One has a line 5, the other didn't. Both had learned to work with their system. Both agreed and so does my neighbor that the "do the best you can and it has to be there mentality has been brought to a screechin halt. I am glad I retired before these things came along though. JMO.

 

Tell the gal with the #### copies your radio is busted, and to call you on your cell. Turn off the stinkin' CB and go to sleep.

 

Sooner or later--both e-logs and on board recording will be mandatory--the only real question is when? and how will the small guy be compensated for the added expense?
Don't ever mistake--government oversight and actual reality--they have nothing to do with each other--fact is it is all touchy feely feel good BS--always has always will--no different than all the new airline regs--it is all smoke and mirrors to make John Q. Public feel good--
The highways are too congested and getting worse--the big bad trucks are in our way---I got tailgated going to work today Senator--you have to do something--I am afraid to drive my kids to school---BLAH BLAH BLAH--
Add the mega carriers trying to even the playin field by mandating speeds etc--and trying to act as if they are the good guys--and advocates for highway safety and sooner or later it will happen--but will it stop the problems we see everyday? Of course not--people will always cheat--steal-find away around--is it as prevalent in this industry as the government will have us believe--of course not--IMHO it is just like Gun Control laws--we need to ban guns--it so unsafe--BLAH BLAH BLAH--guess what folks we have gun control laws--and for your information Criminals don't give a FLYING ###### about laws--that is why the are criminals!
Just my $.02

 

AMEN to that,I started that 2 hears ago and NEVER once have i had a problem,go back to truck put cell beside me and "Do dah snooze",its that simple

 

The ECM (Electronic Control Module) is what records what the truck is doing such as speed, hard brake applications etc.

QualComm can also retreive the ECM info by hooking a link uo to it.

 

It doesn't say you have to sleep. It says that you must be OFF DUTY for a certain amount of time.

 

I see that your young and impetuous, but, the E-Logs don't tell you when to drive, they only tell you when not to drive. There is a difference.

 

The Rights of All


I am alarmed and deeply angered at the recent proposal and remarks of Ray LaHood, Secretary of Transportation. In defending his proposal to require approximately 500,000 carriers install Electronic On-Board Recorders (EOBRs) on nearly all trucks, he said, "We cannot protect our roadways when commercial truck and bus companies exceed hours-of-service rules. This proposal would make our roads safer by ensuring that carriers traveling across state lines are using EOBRs to track the hours their drivers spend behind the wheel."

Here's a proposal for Mr. LaHood. Let's put Internet-trackable GPS Electronic Tethers (IGETs) on him and each of the 55,000 people under his command at Transportation. We citizens cannot protect our freedoms when commercial politicians like him exceed the constitution's rules. This proposal would make our nation safer by ensuring that politicians who rule across state lines are using IGETs so we can track the hours they and their staffs are spending.

After Mr. LaHood has developed this IGET system with a very small part of his $70 billion taxpayer-paid-for annual budget, prototyped it on himself and his 55,000 employees for, say, three years, he can expand his program to include all elected politicians and their staff members in the federal government. After that, he should come back to us lowly truck drivers and we'll discuss together the installation of his EOBR spy boxes in our trucks. Then we can all spy on each other and be one big happy community together. It'll be great! It'll make our roads safer, right?

The EOBR spy box defenders say these are not spy boxes, but only monitoring devices that record a limited number of functions (e.g., when the truck is running, the duty status of the driver, etc.). This is the third biggest lie ever told by a politician, right after "the income tax we are creating will never exceed three per cent" and "the social security number will never be used for purposes of identification." Today's EOBR spy boxes are a Model T; tomorrow's will be a 2025 government BMW with metallic paint and the ability to cruise at 35,000 feet. Today, the government will require carriers run the spy boxes and dictate to those carriers how and when they show government their every record, but tomorrow the government will control or own the carriers and their boxes, just as they now control or own car companies, student loans, mortgages, and health care. Remember how employer-provided health care was designed to eventually become government-run health care? Same song, another verse. Government-run trucking. Enjoy.

As Mr. LaHood voluntarily took office on Jan. 23, 2009, he accepted the responsibility to defend the constitution. Its 4th Amendment states: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." He has not only failed in this task, but he is abusing the legitimate power of his good office to illegitimately attack the rights he is sworn to uphold. Understand what Mr. LaHood is doing: he is not simply failing to protect our 4th Amendment right with Carter-level incompetance or malfeasance, he has joined (and is leading!) the attack against it!

Mr. LaHood's stated reason for his perpetration of the EOBR spy boxes on us is to "make our roads safer." He is not telling the truth. Where's his proof? Where are the longitudinal studies that support his claim? Who comprised the control group? Where is the statisticians' report showing a proper interpretation of the raw data? How much "safer" will our roads be if we give up our right to be free from this type of government's search of us and our things? Where is the ratified constitutional amendment by which we citizens gave up our 4th Amendment right to be free from government searches without a specific, limited warrant?

If a judge were to demonstrate a bias against an innocent defendant as Mr. LaHood's above remark demonstrates against truck drivers, the outraged defense lawyer would rightly demand the judge's removal from the case (perhaps from the bench!), but Mr. LaHood continues to sit in judgmental judgment of us. The government's subjection of certain convicted criminals to its surveillance is appropriate; subjecting law-abiding citizens to this treatment is itself criminal. We are individual citizens who are not only unconvicted, but unaccused, and against whom the only evidence is Mr. LaHood's prejudice. Mr. LaHood's remark shows he has neither the temperament nor the judgment to be a public servant. He needs to be removed from office.

Companies have every right to know (therefore, to track) the whereabouts and use of any equipments which belong to them (consistent with employees' rights), but government has no such right. The government has no right to track innocent citizens where the only evidence of wrongdoing is the prejudice of government leaders. Use of EOBRs is an issue between a carrier and its insurance company, and between a carrier and its employees, and it's none of the federal government's stinking business. Butt out, Mr. LaHood: find your new home in the unemployment line.

I favor increasing traffic safety and preserving our constitutional rights. Mr. LaHood favors using traffic safety as an excuse to violate those same rights. We do not need government-required tracking devices around us. As Mr. LaHood is unfit for public office at any level, he needs to find a new job, preferably one in the private sector where his remuneration is based on productivity instead of political connections.

The misdeeds of some is never justification for violating the rights of all. Our constitution and Bill of Rights must stand, and Mr. LaHood must stand down.

Dan the Trucker Guy

 

I think Dan is angry because he wont be able to run 3 logbooks in the near future LOL