E450 why is it lower towing capacity than a F450?

Yea but they are the newer style with sheet metal unibody frames aren't they? Like this as example.. It's not a real frame like the previous generation vans. The newer ones are unibody and can't handl the weight the older one did so far as I know anyway. Also they don't have diesels now.




But then look at this the previous generation like what I'm after. This is a full frame van just like a truck.. The above example doesn't even have 8 lug wheels so there is no way it has the towing capacity of the previous generation e450's like in my 2nd picture.



One is a heavy duty commercial vehicle the other is like putting a duelly rear end under a 1980's toyota and calling it a 1 ton.. lol

 

Yeah I wouldn't touch the v10 with a 10ft pole.. At least the 6.0 can be made decent with a bit of work.. Those v10s are like buying a 6.4 powerstoke.. it's gonna go sooner or later and nothing you will do to stop it or make it better

They actually used to make a E550 too that had 7.3's in them but they were all super long frames and built as box trucks but I imagine they'd be a rough ride because they were all the old style leaf suspension no coil overs.

 

Any certain lots/areas that you know of or just all around IN? Far as I know though they only sold the diesels to the ambulance builders after 2008 because Ford was only allowed to build a limited number of them each year after 2008 due to the DPF requirement and they didn't have a DPF system for the 6.0 and they never put the 6.4 into the van..

edit.. ok for the heck of it I jumped on FB marketplace and looked up Elkhart, IN and looked for E450's.. I found 1 or 2 but more importantly I found a picture of a 2012 door sticker.. It's a V10 van but V10's are same as 6.0's far as weight rating..

Anyway the weight rating is 14,500 the front axle is 5k lbs (less than my F350) & the rear axle is 9600 (more than my f350) so that's defiantly more than my SRW F350. I'm not sure off hand but perhaps that's pretty close to a F450 truck? Meaning the 20k lbs on the ford brochure can't be correct as this particular van with my current trailer would be rated @ 29,500lbs combined.. (for the record my SRW truck is 11,400 F/5,600 R/7000 so this would be quite a bit more than my current truck so I guess it can legally haul more. I wonder what the deal is with the 20k lbs in the Ford brochure though?

So I guess I'll be fine to go this route and build a E450.. on plus side I found out these vans have 55 gal fuel tank from the ambulance configuration. The odd thing though is the front axle being rated less than my F350 but the rear axle is way more.. I wonder how much the 5k rating on the front axle would affect the ability to fully load out the total weight rating..

 

Yeah, I just wonder about the 5k lbs front axle rating. Even my F350 SRW is 5,600. I honestly don't have enough loading experience with hot shots to know if that 5k on the front axle will be a problem or not.. Seems a bit low to me..

 

The 20k lbs came from that Ford brochure I posted in the 1st post. The e450 seems to have the same rear axle rating as the F450 but the front axle on the E450 is 500 less it seems.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/09RVTTguide.pdf