CM870. If you open the "door" on the EGR valve, and let the arm pop out some, and then push the arm back down (not knowing if everything is in the same position as before), will you need Insite? Or can it move the arm back and forth, and relearn it's own endpoints? Not sure if I'm explaining it correctly, but people that know the answer will probably get the gist of what I'm asking. I'm talking about the big piece that goes into the positioning sensor, and connects to the valve with a master chain link.
EGR valve question
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by God prefers Diesels, Dec 18, 2020.
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Sorry GpD, no first hand experience. #### yellow 2WS got neglected with 'em extra parts.God prefers Diesels Thanks this. -
Well, I guess it's going to need Insite. Throwing a code PID-27 FMI 4 "Percent Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve #1 Position"
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Valve doesnt need relearning on insite. It has a motor which does what the ecm tells it to and a sensor that verifies valve position.
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Would you say the valve is bad? And for the sake of argument, if I refuse to replace it, what's the next step? Can it be ignored, or will it silent derate? Between me and you, the valve isn't leaking, I'm sure of that...062 and black_dog106 Thank this. -
I ran with it “stuck” closed for 2-3 months until I got it “fixed” permanently. You’ll have a CIL and slight derate,but I couldn’t tell any difference in power.
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I opened up the valve mechanism. I saw the motor spins a large gear, which spins the arm that moves the valve up and down. That arm is connected to an axle that goes into the positioning sensor. The arm is held in place by the valve itself. So the valve needs to be in the valve guide, or the arm will gradually pop out, and start rubbing the inside of the case. So I took the valve out, and cut the top of it off with a die grinder. Then to make sure the valve rod had plenty of clearance to move up and down, I took the top of the valve, flipped it upside down, and glued it to the top if the EGR valve with some JB Weld Extreme Heat. Then, I cut a 2 1/8" piece of thin steel and blocked off the side that goes to the EGR cooler. I took a piece of that green flexible brake tubing, 0.25" OD, and used that to make a custom coolant line to bypass the EGR valve. Can you picture everything I'm talking about?
So in theory, the computer should think the EGR valve is still functioning from a mechanical perspective.
Edit: I did all this, because I was getting turbo bark at full throttle. I unplugged the motor in October, and the bark went away. But I've got low boost. (always did since I bought the truck) So I figured some might be bypassing the valve. Truck runs sustained 20.6 psi. It will spike to 30 psi, but gradually fall back to 20.6 psi on a sustained pull.black_dog106 Thanks this. -
If the engine warning light is not on then the code is most likely inactive or historical.
If you have the software and a communication adapter you should be able to clear it.God prefers Diesels Thanks this. -
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This should be your code i think.
Ecm checks egr valve position by using the egr differential pressure sensor to verify flow. You are lucky it is an older engine and not as sensitive to tampering as the new ones are.gooseball, God prefers Diesels, 062 and 1 other person Thank this.
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