ELD Mandate....Any O/O's left the business because of it?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by SteveScott, May 16, 2018.

  1. nightgunner

    nightgunner Road Train Member

    Jul 23, 2013
    Cedar Rapids, IA
    Let them go, leaves more freight for those of us who don't need to lie on the logs to get the job done.
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  3. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    in the bush somewhere
    This whole ELD thing makes me laugh. I guess if my situation was different I wouldn't see it the same way. I ran local for the first 10 years of my driving career. Then did two years OTR, working with Elogs. And I can't say I minded it too much. It really wasn't an issue to me. But, I wasn't dealing with the dry van or reefer nonsense. I pulled tanker, so sitting at a dock waiting 4 hours for two pallets to be pulled off wasn't an issue for me.

    I'm running tanker locally now for the last 8 years, but we have a run that does require us to log it. It takes about 12.5 hours to run the trip, and is around 600 miles. I run it once or twice a week at most, to avoid going over the 8 days in a 30 day period, which then requires Elogs.

    My bss hired an older guy (who ran his own truck OTR until December 18) to run this route daily, gave him an older, but very well maintained, eld exempt truck. Two weeks into the deal, he drives around a road closed sign, into high water and swamps the truck. Bent the frame of the truck in the process. (He still has a job too!) Long story short, he was given a slightly newer truck, (05 T600) and an Elog to go with it. He's now running that truck locally, doing 3 loads a day, and going home daily. All because he doesn't want to run an Elog.

    So, I'm now running my daycab 600 miles a night twice a week, begging for the elog, so I can run that trip daily.

    It's ludicrous to me that this other ''driver" simply won't use an Elog, for a run that barely meets the requirements for even needing one. The chances of him getting stuck somewhere out of hours is almost zero. And even if he does run out of hours on any given day, it's a moot point, because he was staying in the truck all week anyways, and can only haul five loads a week, because that's all that there is to haul.

    It's ludicrous! I told the boss to put the elog in my truck and turn me loose. I'd actually have the ability to make more money that way.

    You gotta learn how to work with the changes, whether you agree or not. (I don't agree with Elogs either, but it is what it is)

    Either be willing to adapt to change, or you will be a unwanted commodity. It's that simple.
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  4. Buckeye 60

    Buckeye 60 Road Train Member

    Apr 19, 2018
    I can't say I am in love with the elog but they need to have some flexibility at least get rid of the half hour break and the 14 hour rule ... when I started out I ran with 3 drivers license and 2 log books and I feel a lot less safer now with the timer in the truck before the timer if I was tired I would take a nap so now you have to fight the timer and keep going. ... a lot of times you can't stop to eat a decent meal even if you had the time because you don't know what will happen down the road to delay you. I really haven't seen to many people get out of it because of the e log and I am 60 years old so I am not going anywhere else. .... but I useually running 500 miles or less in the daytime .. avoid the northeast and California and other places that parking is a problem or the dot are ########. . I don't deliver anything to sanctuary cities or sanctuary states ... and if you guys care to look it up the sanctuary bs all are anti truck places without parking and picky cops ... basically if you wanted to carry it out a little bit the areas under democrats useually are anti trucks so I say to bad let someone else haul there stuff and for the most part the loads coming out of Democrat areas don't pay anything .... there are exceptions but as a general rule and I think it's mostly from the anti buisness policy of the Democrats. .. this may sound somewhat silly to avoid that much of the country but since doing this have actually made more money and far less bs and I am dealing with far less ######## at receivers..
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  5. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

    Sep 18, 2009
    1918 Anywhere, USA 90210
    I'm glad you know how to utilize the word idiot! Dude you're screaming the same thing that every trucker who is resistant to change has screamed since this mandate became real. Government overreach? Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. They do have an obligation to all citizens, not just truckers. They have to protect everyone. Apparently they have to protect some truckers from themselves. Maybe if there weren't irresponsible truckers that killed people trying to make a few more dollars, we aren't having this conversation today. I've been in the game for a while, so I'm far from clueless. I know how to run with paper logs or elogs. I see no difference in my money. If anything I've seen an increase because it's forcing my dispatcher/brokers to plan better. So don't be mad at your government, point your anger to the ones that prompted your government, you know those clueless people you may have elected, to step in.
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  6. Ruthless

    Ruthless Road Train Member

    Aug 28, 2010
    The City.
  7. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

    Sep 18, 2009
    1918 Anywhere, USA 90210
    You are saying the same thing that's been said by a million and one truckers as well. We all know about delays. It's apart of the game. I've cheated my logs just like any other trucker has. Some truckers cheat when they don't even have to. Either way it's no good. On paper you have to work longer hours once you fix the logs. Then you end up driving tired. On elogs you have to drive at an odd time, still driving tired. To me, 0+0=0.
  8. Md420

    Md420 Medium Load Member

    Nov 2, 2015
    The elog is not the problem, its the hos. I like elog honestly, less for me to worry about and incase of a pushy employer it is a verified piece of equipment that has my back.

    If you need to run illegal to make money and/or get home you need a better company, to pre-plan/work more efficiently, or both.
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  9. rank

    rank Road Train Member

    Feb 11, 2010
    50 miles north of Rochester, NY
    No.... you are clueless. If you think truckers working too much are even in the top 10% of 4 wheeler death causes you haven't been "in the game" very long. Heck even the Walmart driver that fell asleep was HOS compliant.....doesn't Wally World have Elogs? You want to protect 4 wheelers? Start with following too close, distracted driving, unskilled drivers, speed limiters, stupid 4 wheelers

    Now, with all of that said, my problem with Elogs is that I am forced to pay for them and manage them when my company does not have a history of HOS violations or unsafe driving. I could get behind Elogs for repeat HOS offenders.
    Last edited: May 17, 2018
  10. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

    Sep 18, 2009
    1918 Anywhere, USA 90210
    I sympathize with that actually. The thing is, they want to shut down the cheaters, then they want to prevent anyone from even thinking about cheating. They understand that there are good obedient people. If they do it one, they'll do it to all. The playing field is all the way level. Plus it's probably a tax write-off so the expense is neutralized.
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    Reason for edit: Fixed quote
  11. Derailed

    Derailed Road Train Member

    Dec 10, 2008
    Upstate NY
    That's a nice ride in your pic Rank. Do you pull a step with it? I think ive seen it out that way before.
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