ELDs encourage unsafe driving when uncontrollable delays occur.

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  1. LameMule

    LameMule Heavy Load Member

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    It would be nice to be able to use our better judgment to outrun a storm instead of sit in a snowbank for 3 days but we aren't trusted to use better judgment to refrain from driving while overly tired and dispatchers certainly don't have restraint to keep from demanding that drivers push on while tired.
    Eld's seem to be a simple minded solution to a complex problem.
     
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  3. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    I get the dispatcher thing, but ive been told I suffer fools poorly.... once they learn that we get along great.
     
  4. MSQUARED

    MSQUARED Light Load Member

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    I dont think the problem is the ELDs, in all fairness 11 hours of driving a day should be plenty. In my opinion the biggest flaw is the WINDOW that we have to have everything done in a day. Loading/unloading , traffic,weather. Way to many variables in a day that can happen. Not to mention now of someone gets tired for what ever reason they can't take a nap because said window is closing which puts themself and everyone around them at risk.

    Another issue IMO is the 34(36 for CDNs) that we have to reset every 70 hours. We seem to spend more time sitting now then we ever had esp every night with the 10 hours off. Why do we need to sit for a full reset on top of that every 70 hours now.......
     
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  5. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    You dont HAVE to do a reset, before the reset rule you just recapped all the time.
     
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  6. MSQUARED

    MSQUARED Light Load Member

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    Not if you've max out driving every day
     
  7. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Productivity wise, after the latest changes came into effect in September 2020, there is almost nothing that I could not do on E-logs now, which I was able to do on paper logs in older days.

    Basically, 14 hour limit is of a little nuisance now and I am sure that in the pre ELD days, it was the most frequent reason to falsify logs, while the 2nd reason was 70 hours. 7/3 split also ads a lot of flexibility and the possibility to use PC when leaving shippers or receivers in search for a reasonably safe resting place is a useful tool too.
    The only thing that ELDs might indeed promote as unsafe is the inevitable race against the clock. For instance, if someone has 5 miles to the truck stop and 4 minutes left on the clock, he might be tempted to drive that distance a little too aggressively.

    As far as being better rested driving now on Elogs vs the old paper log days, it is difficult to say. Certainly, ELDs promote less falsifying, and make egregious driving of 1000 and more miles a day impossible but driving while not fatigued they can guarantee not.
     
  8. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    I only work 3.5-4 days a week anymore. I like to work less make more.
     
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  9. dirthaller

    dirthaller Heavy Load Member

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    I have more <2000 mile weeks than I do >2000 mile weeks. I don’t understand why you would want to drive 11 hours a day until you run out of hours for the week….I would burn out fast! One 70 hour week since 2012 for me.
     
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  10. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    Still do t HAVE to do a reset, take 24 hrs off and recap. You need to plan ahead and have a couple shorter days in you week, you wont run out then.
    You dont HAVE to do 36off.
     
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  11. Tram-law

    Tram-law Bobtail Member

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    You got that right!
     
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