ELDs encourage unsafe driving when uncontrollable delays occur.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by RunningAces, Jan 5, 2022.

  1. Tram-law

    Tram-law Bobtail Member

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    Glad I’m not the only one that unplugs the unit and other monitoring electronics but the order in which I do it is: shut the truck off, go onduty for post trip for 8 minutes, log off duty, log out of ELD, put ELD in airplane mode if you can, power off ELD, kill all power to truck(disconnecting battery cables or flipping main cut off switch), tape or unplug any monitoring cameras, unplug “black box”, disconnect ELD power cable(just in case it powers up by mistake without you realizing it), wait about 2 minutes, return power to the truck, and get back on the road. Typically don’t do this habitually and at all costs avoid getting pulled over and also bypass any scale no matter what. I also don’t suggest driving more than about 2 hours and don’t drive further than 100 miles or so. It’s also not the best thing to start out in one state and then put it all back together in another state as that will look to suspicious. Realize also that the odometer reading on the ELD will be different in your logs from when you logged out and when you eventually log back in, which in my experience gets overlooked by compliance personnel. Now before you log back in and put everything back together I wait until my 10 hour break or should I say 8 hour break(since the log will show that you have already been on break for 2 hours even though you drove those 2 hours) is complete. Now if you had a significant time available on your clock to use when when you logged off and unplugged everything and you want to drive more dirty, you can just break for 6 hours to start a split break, but make sure that instead of going off duty, put yourself in the sleeper berth status before logging off and unplugging everything. Just plan on being a bit nervous for 8 days after you’ve done this. Never do it twice in a week. Sometimes it’s possible to do it while sitting in a time consuming traffic jam and your at a stand still when you’re really short on hours available. I get my mandatory 30 minute breaks out of the way by doing this dirty trick many times while in a congested slow traffic or in a stopped traffic situation. Sometimes it’s possible to get the 30 minute break done, if your ELD has the option, by putting yourself in a yard move status when traffic is moving at a snail’s pace. Just be aware that if you get stopped by a very clever DOT officer, he will see these violations when he inspects your logs and you will suffer all kinds of fines from those multiple violations and most likely will be put out of service and 99% likely to be unemployed. And mostly likely won’t get hired to drive for some other company because your CSA score will be so terrible. God forbid you get into an accident when you’re driving off duty and have unplugged everything, most likely you’ll be paying out a lot of dough from criminal and civil fines, and sitting in a prison cell for a while. Be safe everybody and be ready to start paying for even higher ridiculous fuel prices(LETS GO BRANDON).
     
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  3. Tram-law

    Tram-law Bobtail Member

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    Great comment…..Pretty sure everyone’s experience is unique though.
     
  4. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

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    It's probably easier to just log off duty and drive. But yes, no way would I sit for nothing. It ain't happening. I'm also a Independent so I don't have a boss breathing down my neck either.
     
  5. Elroythekid

    Elroythekid Road Train Member

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    It's not a violation until you get inspected.
    I cant wait until they add a light on the roof that blinks when your out of hours... wouldn't put it past them.
     
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  6. MSQUARED

    MSQUARED Light Load Member

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    :evil4: sad but true, after all I'm pretty sure big reason they moved to ELDs is to help DOT with the paperwork of sifting through logs. I think all they do now is look for violation on your elog now and if they don't see it your safe. So just be creative I guess
     
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  7. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Lotta assuming here, assumptions from elog lovers that paper loggers want to drive 90 hrs a week

    Assumptions from paper log folks that eld types are lazy

    I dunno, have run both, i know on elogs ive had to park it 4 hours before im tired, but regionally i have to do that on paper too cause parking isnt an option some places.

    I prefer paper but i dont think its cause i want to work more, i like em cause i dont get yelled at by compliance for a 5 minute over my 14 or 11 (because i took a 3 hr nap in the middle of my run in a daycab).
     
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  8. Pepper24

    Pepper24 Road Train Member

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    Exactly he’s complaining that he can’t run illegal
     
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  9. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    Max out driving every day tear a page or two out and ride
     
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  10. supergreatguy

    supergreatguy Medium Load Member

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    I just use a white board to log, and if I get questioned my only reply is “what is rules? Are what talking we about?¿”

    then I will walk away after shutting my truck off and say “what is truck?” “Who is you and why?¿”


    Typically they just leave
     
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