ELDT training

You are required to get the ELDT through your school, and you will be required whether you get your permit on your own or not.

My advice to OP, or those reading:
Get your permits before you go to school. Do NOT spend money on them.
Call your DMV and get their book, then go to Cristcdl for your flashcards, mock tests etc. Cristcdl is pretty much verbatim to what is at DMV. Also, if you have a smartphone, get the CDL prep app by Jeffrey Diaz. It too is pretty much verbatim to the test at the DMV, and has mock exam mode where you can practice. Get to where you pass every endorsement before you go in, then take them all in one shot.

Hazmat is the exception here, where the DMV will not let you take the test before you have taken the class. I'd still study it though.

Why go to all this trouble you say?

Your first week in CDL school is then cake--and you can spend those days in the classroom studying your pretrip, and trust me you will need it. It is the portion that most students fail.

And bonus--many paid schools (carrier training) require that you take your permit first, and for those who don't, you will spend one less week in training.

Either way don't sweat the ELDT. Mostly it is a ton of extra paperwork your school has to deal with. For you, it just means you are required to sit in a classroom.

Hope this helps.

 

Don’t pay for the ELDT… honestly I would find a trucking company that will do an apprenticeship so you get paid. They will in return pay for the ELDT.

 

You can get ELDT at your location without having to go to a truck driving school. I am a certified Traveling ELDT Provider willing to come to you to do the training. Truck driving school’s will not do ELDT alone. They can but they won’t. I will do ELDT alone that meets the Federal Standard . DOT Safety Checkups LLC.
I sm s former DOT Officer 1986-2012, CDL since 2007, currently have an unrestricted A with tanker. Have been a CDL trainer since 2010 and am a Third Party CDL Driver Examiner for the DMV since 2016.

 

Umm, yes it does...

holding a valid CDL

If he had a CDL prior to that date, but it is no longer valid, then he doesnt have a valid CDL. If he had kept it current, then it would be valid and would be grandfathered in by that rule. But since the CDL is not currently valid...

 

Learn to read the whole sentence so you don't look like a fool. I've already posted it.

 

I did read the whole sentence. I read every word: The jist of your post was since he had a CDL prior to that date before he may not have to. The FMCSA is clear and unambiguous. Its your above response that is foolish...

They might, but he held a CDL prior to said date so if the state is following FMCSA then ELDT isn't required.
Nothing about that says the CDL has to be current at that date. It specifically says prior to that date.

But as we have seen states not follow FMCSA rules here, it's best to call the SOS (or DMV) for the state and ask.

Your whole "red sentence":
The requirements do not apply to individuals holding a valid CDL or an H, P, or S endorsement issued prior to February 7, 2022. (bold mine)

If you had a CDL, but it wasnt valid on Feb 7, 2022 then it isnt valid for this rule and you are NOT grandfathered. Its QUITE clear.

 

That's not what the word prior means.....
Nowhere does it say is has to be valid on Fab 7, 2022. Just prior to that.

Here, I'll give you the definition and not reply again as you are obviously one that can never be wrong, no matter how wrong you are...
prior
1 [ prahy-er ]
adjective
preceding in time or in order; earlier or former; previous: A prior agreement prevents me from accepting this.
preceding in importance or privilege.

 

How many CDL schools did you go to? Making it seem "cake" minimizes that CDL school is still work. If you struggled on the pretrip that may be why? Every school and state is going to vary.

Furthermore ELDT isn't just paperwork. Mine was about 45 hours of additional painful JJ Keller videos that you tested on in addition to your three weeks of other classroom and range time.

The fact that you chime in trying to drum up business speaks volumes. Many schools provide the proper eldt training. You could have at least answered the unanswered question before you wanted them to pm you for your "expert" help. My school did the eldt training, my nephews school did the training and i understand MANY schools do the eldt training.

Excerpt from JJ KELLER
"Who can provide entry-level driver training?

Both the theory and behind-the-wheel training must be provided by an entity listed on FMCSA’s Training Provider Registry (TPR). Most entities listed in the TPR will be truck driver training schools and motor carriers that have schools to train their own drivers."

Possibly you could shed some light then on ambiguous Federal Guidelines regarding needing eldt IF you previously had a CDL but let it lapse? Just because there is a law on the books doesn't mean it gets practiced verbatim in how we interpret the American language. As you know most all law is rooted in English common and we do a pretty fair job butchering........for example:

A big hurdle i faced and companies will disqualify you for is the Federal Requirement of the previous three years of driving/employment history. Nowhere in the spirit of that law did our legislators mean to disqualify Americans from employment as a truck driver however companies found it easier to pass over for other candidates without those potential national security implications. That was the spirit of that law and companies butchered it as surely any state will add their own twist to federal guidelines as long as they "comply" for those federal highway dollars, grants and enforcement ot pay.

 

The point I think he was trying to make is that you don't have to go to a 20 or 30 day school. Also, you don't have to get the Theory and Behind The Wheel from the same provider. Many of the smaller, independent trainers direct the students to one of the online training providers for the theory portion and then conduct the road and range portions. This works well for drivers that already work for a company but can't set aside an entire month for training.

 

After rereading they are correct in the respect that no company is going to offer eldt training alone.

However, If you're participating in a company sponsored driver training program they are going to cover the eldt portion as that's the only way to get your CDL-A now with those requirements as of 2022. I wouldn't think any company would want you driving on a cdl learners for more than several weeks.

Sorry if i came across as snarky.