Elogs for 1 or 2 truck operations...

Well now they won't get ya on the form and manner tickets. See glass half full! Take it easy, I'm just messing with ya.

 

Yeah! We need to have a nationwide trucker strike! That will teach the gubmint who's in charge!

Who wants to go first?

 

You can use paper logs If you work no more than 8 days out of 30.

What if I work local 100 mile radius with no log book required for most days of the month...but then also run 8 days out of 30 outside the 100 mile radius. Is elogs required?
Thanks

 

Quick google led me to this..it's from 2012 2 years after csa. giving drivers PLENTY of time to get their act together.

"The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) conducted three million driver inspections in 2012 and found 950,000 violations. Of these, 450,000 were hours-of-service violations. "

FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND hos violations...and ya wonder why the politicians decided we needed elogs?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/business...trucking_associations_estimates_that_the.html

 

I think you'll be good to run paper. But I am not 100% on that.

 

Byod. Being your own device. Require it as a condition of employment. Quite a few industries are doing this.

 

I suggest you research this, it you that suffers the consequences not me. But i believe if you regularly run a time sheet exemption and only are required to complete a rods 8 or less days a month, you are exempt. Again, double check that, i could be wrong cause it didn't apply to me so i probably didn't pay that much attention when i read that part of the ruling.

 

yeah i am going to be looking for some clarification on this as well. i have several months i could fall under the 8 day exemption but then i have a lot of months i would not as well. i wonder if i could turn the e-log off and run a time card for short haul months and turn the thing on when i run over the 8 day exemption. on a lot of the short haul stuff you would be changing your duty status every 10 mins some day and your log book would look like you just snorted a line of coke and then accidentally swapped your log with your hear rate monitor. time card would just be so much simpler for the short haul months rather than having to change your duty status every 15 mins to keep from burning up your drive time.

 

Some of the arguments regarding Megas and running illegal are hilarious. You can bet your ### that before they installed these electronic babysitters in their trucks they weren't running 100% legal.

I can remember when I started driving, before cell phones, drivers using the pay phones to call dispatch. If I had a dollar for every time some desk driver was pushing a driver over the phone, I'd be retired on a beach.

These large companies had no choice but to take this route. Far as I'm concerned, it's the cost of doing business in the manner that they CHOOSE to do it. Where do you think service failures come from? From customers when their product doesn't get to where it's supposed to when it was supposed to be there. There is no way that the hos can be written for it to function in a mannner that can please 100% of the industry. Sometimes, you have to bend the rules to make the people who ultimately write your check happy.

This industry has become nothing more than a bunch of spineless bassturds.

For those that are so concerned with doing things legal. Don't even bring that argument up unless you drive the speed limit, never more than 1mph over it, come to a complete stop at every stop sign, not roll up and slide it into 1st and keep on going.

 

Of course they were not running legal. Neither were you, neither was i, and neither was anyone else that has ever ran a paper log. We all fudged a little at some point. Some more than others. That's not the point. The point is for this to get over turned the legal arguement can not even hint at needing or wanting the ability to fudge the books.

You simply can not tell a judge or congressman that this mandate is bad because it prevents you from fudging your log book. Well you can, but that won't get you the outcome you want. Heck i wouldn't be surprised if every one of these conversations about elogs on ttr and every other trucking forum wasnt printed out and shown to legislatures as why the industry needs elogs mandated.