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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by snowman_w900, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. spax

    spax Medium Load Member

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    Model year will be determined by vin which is indicated by the 10th digit. X and back are exempt, Y (2000) and up will require one. Leave it to the government to word something poorly especially when it pertains to truckers. It has been updated though in the final ruling.
     
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  3. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    I'm not being a jerk so don't take that way my model year is y according to the vin. My date of mfg. Is 99 so DOT can go take a flying leap. The book says MANUFACTURED AFTER 2000. That's what I'm going by and my date is on the door jam.

    Again not trying to argue and as we both said way for them to word it and screw it up. But it says date of mfg and my date is 04/1999 that's what I'll argue and they can shove it when I pull up MANUFACTURED...AFTER...2000.

    Again no argument I'm just saying you wordered it that way (dot) that how it's interpreted write me a fine and we're going to court with you're reg and a time stamp in hand...

    Maybe that'll make em think twice about leaving things open to interpretation.
     
  4. rank

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    Might not be a mistake. The Ontario DOT used the DOM when they made the speed limiter law. "Trucks mfg before Jan 1 1995 are exempt". We had a 1995 model with a Celect ECM that was built in 1994.
     
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  5. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    i have the same situation as 379 my truck has a 99 biuld date i want to say 7-8/99 its a 2000 model year vin Y. so by the "trucks manufactured before 2000" my truck would qualify but by the clarification by the fmcsa saying the vin will determine the year for enforcement my truck is not exempt.
     
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  6. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    You are preaching to the choir BUT, how many times are you willing to go to court? I don't know what the penalty is for not complying but imagine the hit that your safety score will take from potentially multiple OOS orders and an authority revocation.
     
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  7. Chasingthesky

    Chasingthesky Heavy Load Member

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    Have fun with that as you'll almost certainly be going to court. Regardless of the wording, its been made clear that the exemption goes by the VIN, not the date of manufacturing.
     
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  8. spax

    spax Medium Load Member

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    Yeah there is no arguement.....you're are wrong plain and simple. I know you don't want to be because of a technicality and that technicality puts you on the side of the fence you don't want to be on. No enforcement officer is going to go looking for manufacture date on door jams to determine compliance. They will simply look at the model year on your paperwork. As inept as the government is they are not going to make verifying who's in compliance and who's not that complicated.
     
  9. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    You're right I was wrong I had never fully read the regulation just what I had seen on the website on the FAQ section. Well guess it's time to start looking for a donor truck to put my motor trans and rears in.
     
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  10. spax

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    I think I'd take a wait and see approach before I'd tear apart a perfectly good truck over the deal.

    On second thought you could build a sweet a model w900 or 359 with modern running gear........
     
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  11. 379exhd

    379exhd Road Train Member

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    The 359 idea has crossed my mind a few times it's just finding the right one. I don't have much of a say at this point being leased I do what I'm told but under my own digits I'll either have to find a donor or just stay within 150 miles of for 22 days a month.

    Either way I guess it isn't all that bad I just don't like the idea of having a babysitter in the truck that isn't a good looking 20 something
     
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