Elogs..The good,The bad and the ugly truth

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by Storm1014, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Take some time and read the proposal. It makes no difference in it whether loaded or empty.

    Companies will have NO CHOICE.

    Here are some highlights from another post I made.


    The new proposal will put an end to the editing and personal conveyance. Drivers should take the time and read it.

    It mentions beginning and after personal use and yard moves. I look for this to be even stricter.


    Integral synchronization with the CMV engine,*
    to automatically capture engine power status,
    vehicle motion status, miles driven, engine
    hours.
    * For MY 2000 and later, interfacing with engine
    ECM.


    Require automated entry at each change of duty
    status, at 60-minute intervals while CMV is in
    motion, at engine-on and engine-off instances,
    and at beginning and end of personal use and
    yard moves.

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    To be integrally synchronized to the
    engine.
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    To provide the same basic
    information as is required on an
    AOBRD, including the identity of the
    driver, the USDOT number, and the
    CMV’s identification.
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    To record the distance traveled and
    the driver’s duty status.

    To automatically record the date,
    time, and location of the CMV at each
    change of duty status and at intervals of
    no greater than 60 minutes while the
    CMV was in motion.
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    To ensure the security and integrity
    of the recorded data by conforming to
    specific information processing
    standards.
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    To meet certain communications
    interface requirements for hardwired
    and wireless transfer of information.
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    To allow drivers to annotate the
    ELD record while requiring the ELD or
    its support system to maintain the
    original recorded information and track
    the annotations.
    •
    To be resistant to tampering by
    protecting both input and output. It
    would have identified any amendments
    or annotations of the record, including
    who made them and when.
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    To provide a digital file in a
    specified format for use by enforcement
    officials that could be read using non-
    proprietary software. This would have
    included the ability to generate a graph-
    grid on an enforcement official’s
    computer, rather than on the ELD itself.

    To provide certain self-tests and
    self-monitoring. It would have
    identified sensor failures and edited or
    annotated data. The ELD would also
    have provided a notification 30 minutes
    before the driver reached the daily on
    duty and driving limits.
     
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  3. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Add to the drop the trailer idea, I am not about to drop a trailer without instructions to do so except to hook to another tractor because the one I'm driving is out of service, another complication.

    I observed an O/O at a repair facility while I was getting the refrigeration unit running again, and he said he had to get the e-log running per company directive before picking up his load, I didn't ask why, but if ever there was a time for using a paper backup, that would be the time, especially if waiting for repair would make him late for an appointment.

    The loss in that case would not be insignificant, the penalty in time is real, and there may be monetary penalties, as well.

    I can fix paper with a new writing device and more paper . No matter how you look at it, there are more things that can take down any automated device, and I bet you don't get paid extra for dealing with it.
     
  4. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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  5. Cat sdp

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    Work less.... Get home with time to spare.

    Dispatcher...... Can you ?

    Driver...... No won't have enough time to get where ever, it's to close sorry ......
     
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  6. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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    Line 5 off duty driving.
     
  7. RonnieStevenson

    RonnieStevenson Bobtail Member

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    How about using the "personal conveyance" feature in regards to running out of clock close to home?
     
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  8. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    the last company i was with, had no problem with us useing PC to go home. serveral hundred miles. after all, we weren't loaded.
    one guy went from phoenix to detroit. for some reason he just didn't want to find a load. oklahoma didn't like that idea though. and wrote him up. but the company stood 100% behind him and fought it.

    i think line 5 has reasoning to be used. but some guys abuse that reasoning. for me, going home for turkey EMPTY. because ever load available was too cheap. was my reason.

    as for good, bad, and ugly. i see nothing good. it's all BAD, and they look very UGLYYYYY
     
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  9. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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    I have never come up too short on hours to make it home.
     
  10. CrappieJunkie

    CrappieJunkie Wishin' I was fishin'

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    Also can edit on duty time. If u were supposed to be off duty but were accidentally end up on duty u can go back change it to off duty and get on duty hours back.
     
  11. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Well, a lot is speculation on the part of folks who have no experience with Elogs. But this PC thing is purely company directed as to whether a driver can use it or not. The FMCSA has a provision for using it. If someone cannot use it, that is company directed. Now that being said. I have been on Elogs for almost 2.5 years. I use PC each and every week. I used it the other day when I dropped the trailer in town and bobtailed to my home 11 miles out in the country. Will use it again later to return to the trailer, then will hook and do a pre-trip and head on down the road with the Elog doing its thing.

    I haven't really used the PC thing for more than about a hundred miles, and it has always been inside the same state. But I have been using it for a long, long time on both paper and Elogs. Have been stopped a couple of times and have never gotten a citation. If one uses a little sense in using PC, they hardly ever have a problem.
     
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