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Empty placarded trailer on shipper's property.

Discussion in 'Hazmat Trucking Forum' started by JReding, May 18, 2020.

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  1. Jul 4, 2020 #41
    MACK E-6

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    In a perfect world, yes, and from the standpoint of legality you’re probably right.

    But in reality it doesn’t always work that way.

    We take fuel in chemical totes to a small airport where crop dusters and recreational pilots keep their planes, and usually it’s us that goes back to pick up the empties.

    Now for a tote, being empty doesn’t negate the need for placards, and they wouldn’t even know where to get those, so the two or three drivers that might go there keep them handy.
     
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  3. Jul 7, 2020 #42
    Bill51

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    ???
    If it was delivered with fuel initially, it was placarded. Who took the placards off?
     
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  4. Jul 7, 2020 #43
    MACK E-6

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    They have to come off the trailer when you deliver them.
     
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  5. Jul 8, 2020 #44
    REALITY098765

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    The same rules apply to a van as a tanker. If you go to a shipper and the m.t. has placards you ''should'' be asking why.
    People have been known to pass out from inhaling hazardous substances in a van.
    Depending on what was in the van it may need to be washed or ventilated too.
    Don't be just removing the placards and ''good to go''.
     
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  7. Jul 8, 2020 #45
    wis bang

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    had one driver trained to collect empty drums for DuPont. Drums built to withstand atomic blast...driver took a Dragger tube and withdrew an air sample after cracking one door which was closed before adding the reagent to show if any fumes were present...if so it was haz mat time!
     
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  8. Jul 8, 2020 #46
    MACK E-6

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    Don’t expect the law to look kindly on having placards on an empty van at an inspection.
     
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  9. Jul 8, 2020 #47
    REALITY098765

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    I'm not sure what you mean by that.

    What' makes a tanker different
    Empty last contained apply's to a van also.
    Depending of course on the product and how it was packaged and if was purged or not.
     
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  10. Jul 8, 2020 #48
    MACK E-6

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    The difference is the tanker IS the packaging, while in a van you’re transporting the materials in drums, totes, jugs, etc...

    Now, “empty last contained” does apply to totes and maybe to drums, but unlike a tanker it doesn’t apply to the entire trailer.
     
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  11. Jul 8, 2020 #49
    Bill51

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    I meant the placards/labels on the totes.
     
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  12. Jul 8, 2020 #50
    MACK E-6

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    Oh... yes, those have to stay on.
     
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