End Dump Trailer's MPG

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by WrightMat, Dec 5, 2015.

  1. WrightMat

    WrightMat Bobtail Member

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    Hello There!

    I am new here. You can find my thread in the new here section.

    This is essentially the whole reason I joined this thread, to be honest! I have a small dump truck business, five total trucks, and we broker three more.

    Two of my units are tractor-trailer dumps (two 35 ft. east trailers, but just replaced with a 26 ft. east tri axle to be more handy on hourly jobs). I updated our tractors last year to 2004 Freightliner Columbia day cabs with S60 14L 455 engines. Personally, the few days I run, I love them. Drivers like the way they pull as well. For the life of me, I can not get any fuel mileage out of them. My heaviest footed driver gets just UNDER 4mpg (3.9-4.1), and my most fuel effecient driver gets between 4.0-4.4 Previously in semi-tractor dump units, I have owned 425 C12's. I was almost always getting 5.0 or just over with them.

    I am looking to add two more units, and would love to go back to the Freightliners (I buy from Ryder fleet sales. You get full maintenance records, and they are always road-ready), but am terrified this is the best I am going to get out of a 14L. I like to to stay under the $40k range here in Ohio when I buy day cabs.

    I am looking at an 04 Columbia with a C12 380, can be tuned to 430. Who knows. Really at a loss right now for cheaper day cabs. ANY advice or recommendations would be appreciated!

    Thanks!
     
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  3. mountaingote

    mountaingote Road Train Member

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    A lot depends on how heavy you are. Also a dump trailer is really not very aerodynamic, and if you spend all day in city traffic you will lose more. Gearing might also be an issue, idk.
     
  4. WrightMat

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    I know I am in the worst trade for MPG, but this Detroit has done worse than anything I have owned before. We are in and out of quarries, plants, and job sites all day long. Average of about 300 miles per day, weighing 80k gross every single haul.
     
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  5. mountaingote

    mountaingote Road Train Member

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    I used to average 4.2 out of a 14L Detroit but I was running around 115,000 gross all the time
     
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  6. WrightMat

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    Thanks for your response Mountain. Seems relatively comparable to mine, unfortunately, with the tonnage difference accounted for.
     
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  7. mountaingote

    mountaingote Road Train Member

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    Yup but I was pulling A-train double gas tankers
     
  8. poppapump1332

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    I was getting 5.2-5.6 running a Pete 389 with a big Cummins 18 speed pulling a 39 ft frameless east running 79,000-80,000pds.
     
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  9. JPenn

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    Get a tune in those Detroits. They can pull like a beast and still get good fuel mileage. Ryder fleet setup on those motors is absolutely worthless, get rid of all their settings that you can, and as close to Detroit's rating for the particular motor you have, at the very least.
     
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  10. abyliks

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    389 Pete 600 cat glider with an 18/3.73 would do in the area of 6 with 102-104 gross in the north east with a 40' dump, in the hills it would drop 5-5.5 would do 6.5-7 grossing 75k with a 48' double can roll off trailer, as stated I would start with putting the factory tune on the computer and get rid of Ryder's program, what gears does it have?
     
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  11. WrightMat

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    3.73s, 40k, eaton 10 spd. 169" w.b.
     
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