Engine Comparison - ISX Cummins Engine 450 hp VS VED-12 Volvo Engine 465 hp

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  1. bransonrocks

    bransonrocks Bobtail Member

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    We have never owned a big truck & are considering purchasing a Volvo to pull our Horse Trailer - want to know the good, the bad & the ugly about these trucks & engine comparisons.

    What can you tell me about them please - MPG, reliability, engine weaknesses....

    AND, anything we need to know about owning our first big truck :)

    THANKS!!!
     
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  3. Chris ITC740

    Chris ITC740 Bobtail Member

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    Honestly. Don't! Unless it's absolutely necessary. I'm 3 generations in this business and I can tell you truck s today are expensive, unreliable and every one is totally different then the other. In the old days you could go to a general parts guy and get what you needed. Today 80% of everything are dealer items. Engine work is near impossible to do yourself because everything needs to be calibrated with a laptop and Volvo only gives the dealer s access to VCADs.

    If you're occasionally moving horses. Buy an old Mack or a Peterblit (80's vintage) with a 3406b CAT engine. Both are relatively cheap and easy to work on. Parts are easily available and almost anyone can fix them. Newer trucks are just junk. I run an 07 Volvo and I plan on fixing it next with a stick of dynamite!
     
  4. bransonrocks

    bransonrocks Bobtail Member

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    we won't be putting near as many miles on as you truckers do - we will only be on the road on week-ends, but, most every weekend & 500-1000 per week-end

    Not looking at anything new, an 03-07 most likely

    It is more of a safety issue to step up to a bigger truck, the regular pickups just dont have great braking power - we are currently towing with an 06 Dodge 3500 - GREAT truck, good pulling ability, but, braking is not too good, especially when you get going down the 6% grades & mountains ;)
     
  5. chevy529

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    Why not look for a single axle? T300 Kenworth or similar. 300HP, air brakes and a 7,8 or 10 speed. It would have oodles of braking power, decent pulling power and less parts to replace. Tires for example. Unless you are pulling 100,000 lbs of horses you don't need 450+ HP
     
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  6. bransonrocks

    bransonrocks Bobtail Member

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    agreed chevy529!! We were planning on removing one of the rear axles - I didn't know Kenworth made that truck - I will do more research! Thanks for the tip!
     
  7. chevy529

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    Almost all brands make single axle medium duty trucks. Including Mitsubishi. Fuso I think it is called.

    You can even find heavy duty trucks with a single axle if they were hauling light loads, like Mail.

    I would lean towards a single axle class 8 with a 350 HP engine and a 10 speed. But that is me.

    I just did a quick Google check and there are oodles of T300's for $30000ish. You can even find them with automatics and sleepers.

    Whatever matches your needs

    EDIT: Stay away from the small Cat engine as it can't be rebuilt I heard. It is a throwaway engine supposedly.

    EDIT #2: After giving it some thought. Unless you have some driver training a truck with hydraulic brakes and an automatic might be better for you. They are available everywhere as well. Good luck. If you have more questions PM me.

    http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=4972789

    might be okay for you. The rear axle ratio may be a little low (slow) for you. Depends.

    Or lol http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=4899699
    Just throw a 5th wheel on it and yer good to go. YES, I am bored.

    Or this http://www.nexttruckonline.com/trucks-for-sale/Cab+*+Chassis+Trucks/Ford/F750/2048642
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2014
  8. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Make sure you buy some thing pre EGR (started in 03 on the 04 models) . Almost any brand engine before EGR were very reliable ! Should be able to find some thing that will fit your needs . The truck paper is a great resource for shopping for a heavy used truck . Best of luck! And let us know what you are looking at , and what you end up with.
     
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  9. bransonrocks

    bransonrocks Bobtail Member

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    Those are Day Cabs - we are looking for one with a sleeper :(
     
  10. chevy529

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