EOBR and the O/O

CRST, WERNER, ENGLAND, SWIFT? I believe y'all (in a large sense there 379...) have been complaining about them just as much before they got a mechanical turk to run their logbooks!

Over hours in NEBRASKA??? Who isn't??? Ya got to get out of that state somehow!

 

quoting mega carrier bottom feeding fleets accident rate doesn't help your argument. their less than stellar safety records have more to do with fresh out of school drivers than eobr's. and ooida's in house ' news' magazine, landline
was well aware of this when they hand picked the big cdl training carriers. it was deliberate in order to skew numbers on the direction they wanted the statistic to show. a better way would be to compare fleets that use eobr's AND experienced drivers. how about landstar? I'd love to see the numbers for their newer eobr required contractors compared to the old ones with paper logs. fikes would be another example.

 

spyder7723 beat me to the punch. Yeah, comparing a large carrier that has a high percentage of new entrants to trucking to a carrier that is all experienced O/O is not very equitable. And I would agree, OOIDA will put it's finger on the scale on any "study" regarding EOBR's. They are sure not the poster child for objectivity. And that is true with any and all sources of "studies". Always keep in mind that usually a study is commissioned to prove a position rather than objectively seek the truth. Just like one can go in over their head and drown in a stream that has an "average" depth of 1 foot. Or the man caused global climate change ruse.

 

The technology isn't responsible for that. It's the same jerks in dispatch and operations that force the guys on paper to do unsafe things. The difference? Now they have something with a computer in it to blame the wrecks on.[/QUOTE]

I don't think dispatch ever forced me to do anything, however I have tore pages out walked around the truck twice to double check said a prayer and really let my old Pete roll cause I took the load usually knowing what it was gonna take to get it there before hand. If you can edit these e logs and if some are to get loads there on time isnt that the same thing? Another point to consider they can shut a drivers truck down till folks in Tennessee quit makin whiskey but that ain't insuring that anybody is sleeping not propped up on the counter all night "hanging out" or poking every dollar made in some arcade game to pass the time maybe even on a video chat all nite to make sure he is the only driver passing thru so to speak. Nothing they can mandate is ever gonna insure or provide safety, if safety is the goal or concern why could they not look at an experienced O/O proven record and let it speak for itself. A driver been on the road five years and not had any incidents worth talking about well he is doing something right let him keep doing it that way.

 

It would depend on what the smart phone has in it, GPS are in some but not all of them so if you have it in the phone, there would be some restrictions. As for the accuracy against the speedometer, GPS isn't considered a consistent tool for speed measurements unless the GPS is made for it.

 

Cowpie.If the ''feds'' told us tomorrow that the ''new law'' is paper logs and outlawed E-LOGS,you would be on here preaching how wonderful paper logs are and have them in your truck tomorrow..Just Saying...

 

http://www.bigroad.com/fleet-home

Cost you $15 dollar a month per driver. Works from phone.
Email your logs to yourself. Just need to be setup with FMSCA to be authorized to use any EOBR.
Best one I have found for the owner operator.

They have a trial version. Can use for unlimited amount of time. Help you get used to it and check out what its about.
Works great but you need to make sure you have wifi on to drain your battery and get a better signal.

If no signal or even you forget to turn it on. You can manually type the city, state and adjust the time.

I had my phone to run the app when I start moving so no problem with forgetting. When you get there you need to remember to change duty.
One thing it doesn't do is take you off the drive line.

A click of one button and take a pic. Send your bol's to broker if they take them emailed. Also does a check in (HS. I'm a big boy/girl now. I can take care of myself) call for you. Send to the broker at 2 am and you get to sleep in. No need to get up and call.

Also they can't say you weren't there. It didn't take that long.

They open the email whchh has a time stamp on it. Click the link to take them to a map with exact location within 10 feet and a nice little msg form you.
"Still here after 2 hrs and starting detention."



Another i heard is good. www.driversdailylogs.com runs from the laptop. A lot of companies already accept them. No more paper if you want an eobr.
You can also edit each line. Even the drive line

 

E-logs can be done from a computer, cell phone apps or whatever, you have AOBRs that can do Elogs and will go by gps location and whether truck is in motion or not. EOBRs however is not a laptop or a elog program. yes it can do elogs but its primary function is to be a black box on your truck as it iis plugged into your trucks ecm and downloads all information of the ecm and stores it

 

Wow. I have never preached that any type of logs are wonderful... paper or e-logs. I have, at best, stated that e-logs are not as bad as some claim, and that they can be a benefit in some situations. And regarding "studies" private groups, associations, or government agencies alll have their own agendas and will "put their thumb on the scale" to get any "study" to slant their way if they can. Actually, if you knew my view on things, you would not have made such a comment. There is very little that I agree with the government on anything, be it Federal, State, County, or City. Too much Libertarian in me to agree with much the government comes up with. Unfortunately, even groups like OOIDA have got me in that perspective regarding them also. But I do enjoy the issue. It is like watching folks thrashing around like they are in quick sand and ready to go under.

 

pretty much all phones have gps in them. dump or smart.

if you needed to dial 911. how you going to tell them where you're at. if you can't speak for whatever reason.

i think it was some time in 07 that the gooberment passed 911 legislation and gps's. specifically for 911.

if you call from a landline. the operators can trace the call to an address. if you use a cell phone. i beleive they use to access the cell towers. but a triangular location was like looking for a needle in a haystack. with gps. they can pinpoint you better.

gps's are all built with the same version coding or whatever it's called. makes a very handy tool for accurate miles and speed. they all run off the same satellites. gps is very accurate compared to the mechanical system in the truck.