So over the pass 4 years I was a company driver using EOBR from Cadac to current was omnitracs. Now I bought my own truck an leased onto a company that runs paper logs. I have to say the coloring book has been a PITA for the first few days ( been using company daycab while waiting on titling paperwork for truck ), going from simple computer doing an telling you everything to now I have another thing to keep track of all day. But my question is, now that I own the truck how much can I get away with on the logs. For example:
I live in Burlington Ky, just 5 miles west of Florence an 10 miles south of cincy oh. Tomorrow I will have my irp an plate an gonna bobtail to north cincy to freightliner for a ECM program. Then from there I have to bobtail to Louisville Ky to pick up my assigned trailer. Once I get my trailer I will go up the road load it an bring the load back to the Nky area. So when an were would you start your log. From the point you start bobtail to freightliner or once I leave to bobtail to Louisville or once I hook trailer in Louisville. I don't want to waste hours that I can use to actually make money.
Also I noticed some guys just flag a pre an post trip. I have always shown 15 mins doing it. Like I said it's been over 5 years since I have actually used pin an paper for a log. One point I just punched a clock an got in the truck. Also don't want to get stopped an inspected an get a log violation straight out of the gate.
EOBR to Paper logs
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by ShakieHead, May 18, 2014.
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You will be wasting only paper, not time. Make sure you have extra pack of log book.
I' m running on paper (last week started Bigroad app).
you can do logbook to freightliner and than to Louisville, and when you get your trailer start new log like you started from home or etc. where is less hours.
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Log it as you do it and log it legal. No need to worry if someone runs into you through no fault of your own.
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When you come out of your house to start ur day start logging, no need to have stress, it kills more truckers every day. Run right bro. Its healthy.
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I log a pretrip at 15 minutes and a post trip gets flagged for every work day. Maybe not necessary or even recognized by DOT but I do it anyway.
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Don't forget the first sheet is for the proceeding 7 days. Just run you a solid line across Off Duty, 24 hours off to the side there in total hours, then down in remarks put... Off Duty, Burlington, KY, 5/12/14-5/18/14.
That will CYA on the previous 7 day rule. Make sure you record your BOL# or type commodity in the appropriate box and company name and address. Since you are headed to a shop go ahead and start your on duty leaving the house. In the future you can start and stop your on duty at the terminal and the ride to and from home will be personal conveyance unless you take the trailer home and leave straight from there.
Flags only require city and state but the company might want a description. I'm sure they'll cover that in orientation. They might give you a more personal company logbook which might have a recap and DVIR on it. I guess you'll find out when you get there. But until you get there use your own blank logbook.
Here's the required log regulations to refresh you.
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Thanks mina. I think the sad part is I know how to cheat an run illegal better than legal. 6 yrs ago when it was just me an my wife in a small apt I would leave for a month plus an never stop. As long as they fed the loads I was eating. Never stopping or sleeping. Now with a house, 2 sons, nice cars an life, I'm not gonna throw everything I worked my butt off for over a load or break. I'm just trying to figure out how much I can legally bobtail a truck I own without logging it. If I was just going to dealer then back home I would never log it.
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My rule of thumb when imn on paper logs is. You dont need to log unless your driving by a weight station.
jdiesel3406 Thanks this. -
Some people say run legal others say fudge the book. The sad thing is we will all probably be on elogs in the near future. I run loose leaf and can honestly say i run untill i get tired thats the only way i can really fall asleep. Some days its 16 hours of driving and others is 10 or 11. I know my body if im tired i pull over. You can fudge logs for instence if im somewhere loading i wont start logging until i am leaving. I use gps to run how many hours it should take me to get from point a to b. and i dont log fuel stops because if its under 15 mins you dont have to show. Make sure u log a rest break before 8 hours of driving is up and rember if ur tired pull over n sleep. Like i said i run hard but usually 6 to 7 hours of sleep i can do it all again. I just cant sleep longer then that so you can make alittle extra for those 3 hours ur running vs sleepin.
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