Equipment issues/when to refuse equipment

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by HugeRocks, Feb 21, 2025.

  1. HugeRocks

    HugeRocks Bobtail Member

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    I personally haven’t been pulled before. I’ve done regional routes in these “junkers” before though. Got lucky 2 times on a Dallas to Houston run, all scale houses were closed.

    I’ve do maybe 6 -8 regionals a month and sometimes I get lucky with timing / the dog house being closed. Sometimes I get a run where I don’t even pass a scale like tonight for instance.
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    The one thing that absolutely gets the truck in the shop is faulty cruise control.
     
  4. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    Problem is new drivers don't really know what's "safe" and what isn't yet.

    His tread depth wear is a good example. He thinks they're too low but can't tell us what their measurements are because he hasn't stuck them with a gauge.

    I also bet he doesn't know what the minimum tread depth is for tires on any given axle (trailer nor tractor.)

    He needs to spend time reading that little green book before making equipment safety calls so early in his career.
     
  5. HugeRocks

    HugeRocks Bobtail Member

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    Found the super trucker ;)

    Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see if a steer or drive is road worthy. Wish I had pictures of the KW I was talking about in particular. Pretty sure if a drive tire is missing a large enough chunk to see the ply or “belt” material that can land you a citation.

    also I wasn’t aware that “new” drivers weren’t allowed to make safety decisions in regards to their equipment. Didn’t see that part in the green book :D
     
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    That's true, but even the most novice of drivers should know when something looks unsafe. Tires are the most obvious, but actually driving the truck is a much better way of knowing, sometimes it's too late, and trying to keep a schedule, you put up with the hazards. I still say, as a driver, those defects should be noted, but you aren't expected to correct them, I don't think.
     
  7. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    Found the illiterate newb who doesn't understand tread depth criteria for the FMCSA. The equipment belongs to your employer and the safety requirements for equipment are ultimately determined by the FMCSA and then your boss. You will have a very short career, my friend.
     
  8. Ex-Trucker Alex

    Ex-Trucker Alex Road Train Member

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    So, of all the things you've specifically mentioned, 2 of them are things that I would refuse to drive:

    Low-beam out: This will get you pulled-over randomly and put out-of-service, plus give you an equipment violation.

    Tire with belt showing: Ain't no way this is safe. You are driving a ticking time-bomb there.
     
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  9. MSWS

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    Have any of your coworkers been stopped on a regional run and cited for violations?
     
  10. HugeRocks

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    Yup. Everyone that has any tickets at this company is all from weigh stations on regional runs from what I’ve heard. The most common is tires,HOS,brakes, and lights. Some have moving violations but those can be prevented so it’s not my problem.
     
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  11. MSWS

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    In that case, it sounds like you're probably right to worry. I'd start looking for other work. I wouldn't recommend quitting immediately, but also don't put yourself in a position to get points on your license. If you get a POS for a regional run, don't drive it. You've probably got a few times you can refuse to drive before management will really take notice. You don't even necessarily have to refuse a truck outright. A lot of things can go wrong shortly after leaving the terminal that can force you to return for repairs, if you catch my drift. As long as it's not a regular occurrence, and it shouldn't be since you don't get regional runs every day, you can buy yourself some time.
     
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