Excavator chaining while I'm bored.

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by leftlanetruckin, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2009
    Messages:
    6,483
    Thanks Received:
    47,863
    0
    Only in Canada? I understand that in Canada you cannot haul with the blade on, correct?
     
  2. cpape

    cpape Desk Jockey

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2010
    Messages:
    2,151
    Thanks Received:
    2,263
    Location:
    Dubuque, IA
    0
    An excavator or dozer on a step is a no brainer on axles. All you do is move it forward or back to get the axles right.
     
  3. haulhand

    haulhand Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    2,091
    Thanks Received:
    3,232
    Location:
    Rock Springs, Wyoming/Dickinson, ND
    0
    Many western states will permit a multi piece load if you can prove that you are reducing dimensions such as width you just have to ask. I've moved D9 dozers from Kansas to Cali with the blade on my back deck on a 2+3+2 only state that wouldn't let me was Cali but I was just going to Barstow so I left my jeep and stinger and went back for the blade that i left i n Vegas. Some states like Wyoming will let you haul whatever you can axle so blanket statements of 80k are not quite accurate you have to do a little research on weight laws.


    ---
    - Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  4. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    3,258
    Thanks Received:
    1,914
    Location:
    Edmonton, AB
    0
    You can but over 12' 7" you will have to use an escort.
     
  5. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2009
    Messages:
    3,607
    Thanks Received:
    3,163
    Location:
    Mo Via Blackpool,Lancs.
    0
    Looks like I missed all the action when I went in for a shower huh?:biggrin_25523:
    The only time we haul with no blade, is when the factory (Cat) is trying to get the OD charges down. That will make it 10' - 11' wide, instead of over 13 or 14. A few states stipulate the blade has to be rear facing, and that's about it as far as that goes.
    I haul a lot of the snow wing equipped graders out of Ks to Wa or Or, and they have the OEM blade, plus a V plow and side wing. As long as it is part of the machine, you're good to go pretty much. Obviously, a machine can get broken down to reduce weight and size, but that is up to the shipper, unless it's a 992 or D11 etc.
    As far as weight goes, different states allow different weights. Mo now allows a 5 axle combination to be up to 100k lbs with permits. Ia and Ne are 92K lbs, and so on. I am registered for 117k lbs, but will still pull the odd 3 axle stretch as well as my trusty old 2 axle. The same rule applies to size, meaning that is must be a "non divisible" load. In basic terms, you can't put 2 or 3 machines on a trailer and get an overweight permit, and you cant put 2 - 5' crates side by side and get a 10' wide oversize permit.
    And I agree, over chaining is always the safer way to go, especially when you consider it normally takes a whopping 10 minutes to do.
    Martin
     
  6. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2009
    Messages:
    3,607
    Thanks Received:
    3,163
    Location:
    Mo Via Blackpool,Lancs.
    0
    A couple of years ago, Wyoming was getting really stupid with their overweight permits.
    They would tell you that nothing else can be on the trailer, or they will deny the permit. No tarps, blocks, chains, nothing. Needless to say that didnt last long....Thank God, as it was getting old me having to hide my tarps under machinery:biggrin_25523:

    Martin
     
  7. Grumman

    Grumman Light Load Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2009
    Messages:
    289
    Thanks Received:
    120
    Location:
    Locust Grove, GA
    0
    Yep realize that just like all the other loads, however if you're gonna load something that brings you over 80k you still have to take more care to not load more per axle config than allowed by whatever states you're dealing with. I have seen them boom forward and boom rearward. I know loading the bigger JLG ultra boom you have to put the basket and boom overhanging on the top deck to get the axles right. Put the boom to the back and you'll have too much on the drives. Just never hauled one of the 10.5 wide 50k hoes.
     
  8. cpape

    cpape Desk Jockey

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2010
    Messages:
    2,151
    Thanks Received:
    2,263
    Location:
    Dubuque, IA
    0
    A long boom lift is much more difficult to axle than a dozer or excavator
     
  9. leftlanetruckin

    leftlanetruckin Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2009
    Messages:
    3,607
    Thanks Received:
    3,163
    Location:
    Mo Via Blackpool,Lancs.
    0
    It will depend on the states you are going to run in, but if you keep it at or under 12 - 40 - 40 you will be pretty much covered everywhere, except in Mn when they have the frost laws in effect.
    I just use my load gauges on the truck and trailer when I am on level ground. For the stuff I haul pretty regularly, I measure from the front deck to the machine and make a note of it in a book I have. You wouldn't believe the amount of fone calls I get from our other drivers asking me where to put a machine....

    Martin
     
  10. Rontonio

    Rontonio Road Train Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2009
    Messages:
    6,483
    Thanks Received:
    47,863
    0
    hey HH,

    good to see you again. Hey I found a 50T Fontaine Hyd here in town. It needs a new deck, but I am not sure how expensive that might be. Ever had one done?